RE: consciousness?
February 18, 2013 at 1:22 am
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2013 at 1:29 am by Neo-Scholastic.)
(February 17, 2013 at 7:46 pm)Ryantology Wrote: A telephone signal is not a thought.How can you assume it isn't? Neural pathways are basically electric conduits.
(February 17, 2013 at 7:46 pm)Ryantology Wrote: "And what is the difference between the two areas of physical storage other than the mode of writing?" Nothing fundamental. What's your point?That is the point. There is no difference.
(February 17, 2013 at 7:46 pm)Ryantology Wrote: It is a statement that the leap of faith needed to believe a naturalistic explanation is relatively small, because all other suggestions are backed by no evidence of any kind.Oh! so you have no evidence to justify your assumptions and that's okay for you. I see the chances against a naturalistic explanation as rather large. But if you insist that YOURS is smaller than MINE, I'm not going to stop you.
(February 17, 2013 at 7:46 pm)Ryantology Wrote: You are entirely incapable of providing a convincing argument that the question is open. Why should I treat your completely, entirely, wholly 100% baseless assertions as if they were anything but the ramblings of a lunatic?Because you already said that the subject is very complex and no one has yet figured out how physical processes generate experiences. Someday, maybe, but not yet. That makes it an open question, even among competing naturalistic theories. And I'm not the one making any assumptions at all. I'm just doing what you guys do all the time. Questioning your assumptions and challenging your unsupported claims.
(February 17, 2013 at 11:01 pm)justin Wrote: well isn`t your brain mediating your experiance?Exactly! Mediating experience is much different than generating it.
(February 17, 2013 at 11:01 pm)justin Wrote: isn`t very dependable anyways i mean for example when you experiance of the size of the moon when you look outside does that mean that the moon is actually that size or is your perception from you visual experianceSure. Except you cannot say the experience of having an experience is an illusion.