For People Who Think There Was No Historical Jesus

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We know that in the year 30, Shammai dies in Jerusalem and Rabban Gamliel the Elder takes over, for the next 5 years there will be people fasting and praying for some redeemer. We know of a couple, one called Yehudah, who led a rebellion against the Romans, reclaimed some Jewish prisoners, and claimed he could part the seas and get passage back to Egypt. The Romans beheaded him and put his head on a spike, and massacred many of his followers. After this, Pilate decided to sack the Jewish Temple and take it's treasures. The Jews rebelled and the Romans were taking a beating. And after two years of clashes, Caligula recalled Pilate and replaced him with a pair of overseers which calmed things a bit.

We know what happened between 30-37CE because the Jews and the Romans wrote about it (the Romans were far more interested in dates, so we can get some accuracy there). But neither write of the massacre of thousands of Jewish baby boys, or even of there being some weird tradition to release a Jewish prisoner on the ever of Passover which is not documented. Nor of the walking dead, the thousands of exorcisms, and anything else.

The Romans were so obsessed with documenting everything, we not only know what they wore, but how they made their clothing and the dyes.

Now while there is a "Yeshu" in the Talmud, he is a Hellenized Jew, and given the name of his teacher, he would have lived around 120BCE. And in the centuries that followed, he became a sort of polemic character, and where it said "student" "Yeshu" was sometimes added to mock the Christians. (He is stoned to death for teaching idolotry and was excommunicated for having too much of an eye for the ladies). Obviously not the same guy.

My ex-roomate believe that there was a historical Jesus, but that he was an alien and left on his space ship and was probably chewed out by his Commander for violating the Prime Directive.

It makes just as much sense and nobody can disprove it!

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However - if the early mentions of the christ were to be significant - why do they not mention his miraculous rising from the dead ? Maybe that was NOT made up to be part of the MYTH yet?

Do you think that Nero put Christians to death in horrible ways after the fire of Rome?

According to some historians, Nero wanted some additional real estate to build entertainment areas, and had his men burn down those areas and shift the blame to the crazy cult that nobody gave a damn about. Easy scape goats. It then inspires him to use them as a way to misdirect focus from him and his problems, until he eventually has Paul executed. So yes, I believe, based on these accounts, that the sadistic little bastard probably had torture included just for fun!