(February 19, 2013 at 9:55 am)pocaracas Wrote:Ah, the Babel Fish argument.(February 19, 2013 at 8:22 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Proof, empirical proof of the xtian God is not possible by definition. Belief in God is only possible through faith. If it were possible to prove his existence independantly the Xtian God would cease to exist, do you see.
Isn't that the same god that's reported to have talked directly with Abraham, Moses and some others?
Oh, yeah... OT stuff doesn't apply... -.-'
Then what about the New Testament, where God goes so far as to assume a human form and perform miracles to prove his divinity? Wouldn't that rob witnesses of these events of their faith by providing proof? Or even the Bible itself could be considered proof, however flimsy. So by your argument, in order to truly believe based on faith, one must never read the Bible or even be told about Jesus, but have to randomly guess on their own that there was once a man named Jesus who was in fact an embodiment of the one true god who dies for our sins.
Besides, who says the existence of a creator can only be known via faith? Oh, that's right...people who have no evidence for the existence of their creator but nonetheless insist he's real. Rather convenient, eh?