RE: Why Does God Need A Creator?
February 22, 2013 at 5:06 pm
(This post was last modified: February 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm by fr0d0.)
(February 22, 2013 at 4:19 pm)Question Mark Wrote:(February 22, 2013 at 1:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If God could do X, then God has to be Y.
We can't say what he's done without first understanding what he's capable of.
Then how do you tell if God is Y, or if he can do X? What have you seen, heard, or otherwise experienced that has led you to the knowledge of anything in regards to what god is, or what he can do?
And how do you justify that if god could create the universe, then he has to be the creator? We don't know that, do we? Not everyone who can do something, does do that thing.
Loop to the post above: what we know about God we reasoned. What we now see, hear, or otherwise experience we do with the understanding that this reasoning affords us. In scientific knowledge, that is zero. In understanding purpose, it's everything.
Once more I'll repeat it: religion doesn't inform scientific investigation one tiny bit. Origins is a question for science, not religion.
(February 22, 2013 at 4:48 pm)Ryantology Wrote: How do you know God is not time-dependent?Because we reasoned that. Lots of big ideas fit together. God knows everything/ is all powerful... These attributes are basic to a deity. For those to work the deity has to also traverse time. To remain coherent, your model of deity has to possess all qualities that work together. Otherwise your model is flawed and your deity disproven. The model for the xtian God works and is consistent.
