Quote:I'm afraid internal proofs are all there is. Ah well.Then it's impossible for me to believe it. Can't do belief/faith.
Quote:It means they were wrong in that case. They had no choice but to believe, which of course isn't belief at all.Right in one sence and wrong in the other. Yes many were forced to go to chruch and pray even if inside they were skeptical. Many also believed strongly and hated those who didn't. Which of course you know of the inquisition. Religion back then was often forced on people. In a time when freedom of speech didn't exist.
Quote:It's an internally proven claim. It isn't scientifically provable just logically provableFor you it's a proven thing. For me it's the complete opposite. There is no evidence to support the claim.
Quote:I don't claim there's a flying man in the sky either.So you don't claim a god exists?
Quote:At no point does it ever require scientific proof.That is strangely convieniant. It does require scientific evidence if it is to be taken seriously.
Quote:Science never answers the 'why' questions.Maybe it's because there aren't many why answers. If there is no purpose in anything, then there really can't be a why to it. There is no why the earth exists but how.
We as humans naturally try to see patterns in everything and ask why but the question should be how. Not everything has a purpose to it. Including us.
Quote:Thing is, I bet you consider the why all the timeNot really. We humans use "why" as in why do we take certain actions or why we build certain things and such. There tends to be a purpose to our actions but outside of that there is no purpose. No why to it.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.