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Why Does God Need A Creator?
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator?
(February 22, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: He is either omnipotent or immutable. Which is it?
Your objection is illogical. If God could change would he make himself flawed? Can perfection change to become imperfect? I don't find that challenging at all.

(February 22, 2013 at 7:33 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
Quote:Were not working backwards here. Were working forwards.

Demonstrate a direct line of reasoning from "I have no idea why the universe exists" to "The God I believe in (and no other), which certainly exists beyond time and space, certainly made the universe for specific reasons".
1. You speak like my mind is closed on this. It isn't. I have found a satisfactory answer that makes more sense than any other. All other ideas are open for consideration.

2. Basics: positive behavior yeilds positive results > a positive purpose to existence trumps a neutral purpose > what happens if we assume a positive purpose > positive purpose assumed > life quality increased > life is neutral and not positive > deity restores life = positive > deity adopted > life quality increased

"Certainty", in the way I think you mean it, is never an option in theology. You're still thinking in scientific terms. Like you have to know without doubt that a God exists. You cannot.
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Why Does God Need A Creator? - by chasingthetruth - February 16, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Zone - February 16, 2013 at 6:27 pm
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Ryantology - February 17, 2013 at 10:15 am
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by NomenMihiNon - February 17, 2013 at 6:32 am
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2013 at 7:33 am
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Question Mark - February 21, 2013 at 11:34 pm
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2013 at 7:34 pm
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 9:07 pm
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Esquilax - February 23, 2013 at 4:17 am
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Baalzebutt - February 22, 2013 at 9:22 pm
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by NomenMihiNon - February 23, 2013 at 12:38 am
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Question Mark - February 24, 2013 at 10:26 am
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RE: Why Does God Need A Creator? - by Whateverist - February 24, 2013 at 1:02 pm
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