Israel

[The Grand Nudger]

Just revise my response to "missluckie".

and, what actions, Rythem, what actions for god's sake ?

Actions undertaken by organizations such as the PLO.

people, invaded, murdered, kicked out of their lands.. what do you want more ?

None of which excuses the above or makes either side the good guys. Just makes it an us and a them - and which one either faction is is dependent upon which side of that line one stands. What's so difficult to understand about this?

please tell me what do you want ? what do you want us arabs to do ??

just die & clear this world for you ?

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history isn't cruel. Humans like you are.

keep denying history, keep denying that jews started this war by literally invading palestine with the british in 1915.

keep denying that they did that to allow bigger immigrations..

I hope to see your opinion about this when Muslim immigrations get out of hand & a similar scenario takes place..

Okay, I suppose history spends it's time running around handing out daisies and lollipops. Humans can be cruel, yes, just like me, because I'm a human being. I hope this isn't an area of disagreement between us, but what effect it has on the subject of Israel and Palestine - or where I have been cruel in that discussion, is a complete mystery to me.

At what point has history been denied? Just point it out.

Do you have a problem with immigration?

A similar scenario to what takes place, and where? Why would my opinion change if the details are similar?

You see, I will stand with the natives -even if they were atheists-

You'e free to stand wherever you like? Keep in mind that your notion of what it means to be a native is just a snapshot in time. You are an immigrant, I am an immigrant, the crushing majority of the overall human population is that of immigrants. Nearly to the man, we came from somewhere other than where we are.

Double standards aint good.. denying history is even worse.

Agreed, but again, what that has to do with my responses to you or this conversation is a mystery.

Again, respond to my evidence please that jews fought the arabs first. Because if you agreed, then both are part of the war, and both -according your comment, this comment below- are wrong, which would prove that your empathy with jews is really a prefect example of double standards.

Your bias is showing, in this entire thread I've been talking about empathizing with the -Palestinians-.........but you clearly can't process that, it isn't part of your narrative of the "west". What double standard? Who's excusing anyone for anything, firstly, and secondly it occurs to me that maybe you weren't clear on what tq means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

There you go, this is why your screed against the jews has been DOA from the very first letter you typed. It wouldn't matter if the jews ate your fucking children - it would not excuse your own misdeeds. I would understand, hell I may even cheer for you (because remember, from above, I'm a human being - and in addition to being cruel I am many other things) - but it won't make you the good guy. It is not a compelling argument because the foundation of the argument is a classic logical fallacy.