For People Who Think There Was No Historical Jesus

[ThomM]

Am I inclined to accept that Jesus existed? Yes, I am. But I am unable to say with any conviction what he may have said and done, or what his words and deeds might tell us about who or what he thought he was.

But this is the very essence of the point. The legends are so absurd and/or obscure that no reasonable picture of the man can be discerned but he still "accepts that he existed?" Why? And why not then also accept all of the other gods who very silly men claim exist?

There is far too much special pleading when it comes to fucking jesus.

Indeed - the Problem with this thread is that the Title again is worded as a theist would - that it is lack of belief. (We do not believe there was a jesus)

However - if you look at the subject on a rational level - no theist has ever provided ANY proof of the existence of the christ - AND - even if there was a human person upon which PART of the MYTH is based - it would still be impossible for the christ to have actually existed based on the incredible number of contradicting claims made for the character.

One can use the bible to identify the christ myth as a FALSE PROPHET - for example - based on definition from the bible.

Deuteronomy 18:21-22, "And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."

OF course - the bible also says

."Mark 9:1 And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power."

Obviously - the christ IDENTIFIED himself as a false prohpet

Jeremiah 28:9, "The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the LORD hath truly sent him."

ANd - there has been almost continuous war in the middle east since ancient times.