(February 24, 2013 at 11:43 am)fr0d0 Wrote: OK I won't use the hate word. But here again you seem to need to equate my belief with the "needlessly dangerous". This is foreign to my beliefs, but you seem to have no problem assigning this to me.
Yes I disagree that you can be as good as is possible with a positive world view with a neutral world view. This is quite simple to see.
Just to be clear, I don't mean that your belief specifically is needlessly dangerous, I think they all are. I'm not racist, I persecute everyone equally XD
I don't have a neutral world view. The only thing atheism at all addresses is the existence of a god. As to the world itself, I have quite a positive outlook on it indeed. I'm of the opinion that it can and should be bettered, and that I can do that of my own steam, with a view unincumbered by needless dogma or irrational beliefs. I think that's immensely positive. In fact in regards to a general outlook on the world itself, I don't think that atheists and theists are that terribly different in our personal goals. Most of us want to make the world better, we simply differ on why and how, and it stems from belief in a god or gods.
I want to do good because I believe that it affects people, and you do so probably for the same reason, but with the added bonus of an unknown entity smiling warmly upon your doing so.
The danger simply comes from what you might believe that entity wills you to do, which is where, I think, we begin to differ on what constitutes "good".
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.