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Why can't God sin?
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RE: Why can't God sin?
(February 26, 2013 at 1:08 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: During the fast, would it have been a sin for Jesus to give into those temptations?

Was Jesus fully God?
The writer of Hebrews 2 :9 didn't think so. (At least not durning that 40 days and the following trials.)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=ERV

Read the whole section 5-18 to give yourself the proper context.

According to the Hebrews 2 text durning that period Jesus "was made lower than the angels" meaning he was made to endure those trials just like any other man.

(February 26, 2013 at 1:09 am)Nobody Wrote: Adam and Eve weren't ashamed of their nakedness until after they ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
Are you saying Nakedness is/was a sin? Do you have Book Chapter and verse to support this conclusion?

Quote:It was then that they became consciously aware of their nudity and assumed an insecurity about that.
If you haven't conceeded the point yet, know that Nudity in of itself is not a sin.. It is the Lust that accomplanies nudity that is sinful/evil. I suppect that Adam was trying to cover the physical manifestation of said lust on himself and the trigger of that lust on Eve. So as not to raise any 'red flags' as it were.

Quote:Prior to eating from the tree, they could not have possessed a consciousness of good an evil,
Indeed they did not, but they did know of death. God told them if they ate from that tree they would surly die.

Quote: when god told them to eat of the tree that bore the fruit of knowledge would make them like unto god in having that awareness.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=ERV
Read the chapter again, God did not tell them to eat of the tree.

Quote:Giving them orders not to eat of the fruit required they be cognizant of the parallels between obedience and disobedience, in order to elect to obey and comply with god's ordinance to abstain from the tree of knowledge and it's fruit. In order to give those commands god had to know they did not know what good or evil was in order to make an informed choice to obey or disobey him.
All that was needed for Adam and Eve to not eat of the fruit is to know of death. The absents of the knoweledge of Good and Evil does not mean one is without the ablity to choose to obey God or not.

Quote:And then in the midst of that the cherubim that guarded paradise from satan, whom god let to be lord of the earth and who acts only by god's will, were removed from their guard post so that the satan gained entry into paradise when god is omnipresent?
Wow what 'bible' are you reading from?

Quote:And if god is omnipresent, after the eating of the fruit when Adam and Eve hid from god's presence, why is it that he had to call out and ask where they were? How could humans hide from god when he's omnipresent and omniscient?
Are you a parent? Or do you remember being a child especially when you did something wrong and hid someplace kinda obvious(Like behind the dog or something) and your parents called out to you anyway? Why do we do that as parents when we can see our kid trying to hide behind a dog?
(If your not a parent) It's to give them an oppertunity to take responsiablity for what they have done.

Quote:And how could omni-benevolence
Acouple things. Where does the bible describe God as Omni benevolent as the doctrine of omni benevolence describes it?

Quote:relieve the cherubim from their posts in the exact same moment that then allowed his antithesis to enter into paradise
Again where are you getting this? My bibles only speak of the placement of Cherubim soldiers AFTER the Fall of Man. There is nothing that says they were there at any point in time before then.

Quote: and tempt the first humans to eat of the tree that could only have served as a temptation in the first place because god put it there?
If God did not want Man to have the option then He would not have ever planted the Tree of Knoweledge in the middle of the Garden. The Tree Repersented Choice. The ablity to be in the Expressed will of God or to be outside the Expressed Will of God.(Sin)

Quote:When omniscience would have known exactly what was to transpire because a sovereign deity predestined eternity.
...and? What makes you think God did not want us to have the ablity to Choose where we wish to spend eternity? that line of thought has to come from the idea that God is Omni Benevolent (Which BTW is not a biblically based concept.) If fact the oppsite is true. God does not love everyone, there are even those of us He has said He outright Hated.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-12703.html(God does not love you the way you think He should)

http://atheistforums.org/thread-12305.html (The 'omni-aspects' of God.)

If you wish to discuss any of these point cut and paste to a new thread.

(February 26, 2013 at 1:22 am)Cinjin Wrote:
(February 26, 2013 at 1:08 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: During the fast, would it have been a sin for Jesus to give into those temptations?

What are you gettin at bro? None of that nonsense ever happened, and you already know what it's all going to boil down to ...

Some christard saying the same ole same ole: "Jesus can't sin, so even if he gave into those temptations, then it wouldn't be a sin."


The stupids aren't going to offer you anything new. Undecided

I just said that if Jesus fell into temptation durning His trial it would be a sin. Because again in Heb 2 it specifically says that Christ durning that period was made "Lower than the angels" Which was a term that describes man In Psalms 8. So again, Christ for the trials (at least) was completely man.
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Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 25, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 25, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 25, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 25, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 26, 2013 at 12:26 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 1:18 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 5:28 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ThomM - February 26, 2013 at 12:01 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Nobody - February 26, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:23 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ronedee - February 27, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ronedee - February 27, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Nobody - February 26, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 12:53 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Nobody - February 26, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 1:21 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ThomM - February 27, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 26, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Cinjin - February 26, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 26, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Cinjin - February 26, 2013 at 1:22 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Nobody - February 26, 2013 at 2:26 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 2:50 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 26, 2013 at 4:16 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Mystical - February 26, 2013 at 4:26 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 26, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 27, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by The Magic Pudding - February 26, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 27, 2013 at 9:17 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ThomM - February 27, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 27, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Mystical - March 2, 2013 at 10:45 pm

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