(February 26, 2013 at 10:20 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: The concept that god forgives your transgressions against others is worthless.
Imagine this.
Bill in a fit of rage with Ted cuts off the larger of Teds testicles.
Bill prays for forgiveness and god tm forgives him.
In this scenario god is a disinterested third party. How come he gets to forgive on Teds behalf?
In my view the only person who can offer forgiveness is the wronged person, in this case the mono-testicular Ted.
If Bill cut the ball off of Ted, don't you think Ted's Father would also be mad at bill? Being the poilce Chief in that particular movie, I would say that bill would seek out the forgivness of Ted and His Father or face some serious Jail time.
Likewise when we sin we sin against God, for it is His standard being broken. Even when we sin against another person we are sinning against the one who created that person as well as the indivisual themselves.
Just like if Bill were to cut the balls off of Ted. Ted is being physically assulted, but in the larger picture Bill is also breaking the trust of the community at large. as such the people of San Dimas would also demand that bill pay for his crime against the community trust. It is to this larger "communal trust" that you are seeking forgiveness from God.
