RE: Why can't God sin?
February 27, 2013 at 9:05 am
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2013 at 9:09 am by ThomM.)
(February 26, 2013 at 12:19 am)Esquilax Wrote:(February 26, 2013 at 12:09 am)Nobody Wrote: Humans could have been sinless, if one believes the scripture in Genesis prior to the fruit of the tree of knowledge, if god had been omni-benevolent and forgave the very first mistake innocent unconscious humans made, because omnipresent god permitted his agent satan, who only acts by his will, to enter into 'paradise'. Which isn't really paradise at all if the lord of the earth and the god of lies can gain access after the cherubim that guarded the place just so happened to be absent on the day.
I'd go further than that, and say that original sin isn't, and could not have been a sin at all. If Adam and Eve had only gained a concept of good and evil after they had eaten the fruit, then how could they have known that disobeying god was an evil act? How could they even have had a concept of things like betrayal, disobedience or lies, given that all they had ever known was perfect goodness? Not only did they not have a metric by which to measure morality, according to Genesis they didn't even have a knowledge that there was such a thing as good and evil, before committing the first "evil" act.
Beyond that, I love how when they gain knowledge of things that are evil their first instinct is to cover up in order to be good, yet god's all like "fuck y'all!" anyway.
Sorry, I don't mean to derail the thread, it's just that that always bothered me.
Actually - the problem with the claim that disobeying the god is an evil act is that the god told Abraham to MURDER his son - and to disobey would NOT have been an evil act.
The concept of sin is still another concept that is a non-starter
Since the Mono-theistic creator god is the source of everything - including evil -= the claim that sin exists is nonsense to begin with. How could murder be an offense against a god that created it and called everything it created - GOOD>
(February 26, 2013 at 10:59 am)The Magic Pudding Wrote: I don't know why a god couldn't have sinned, in his early days.
He did something the night before and wakes up full of regret.
He did something the night before and wakes up full of regret.
He did something the night before and wakes up full of regret.
He goes on like like this for what would be many eons of man.
I see you sinning there, I told you not to via various crazy fucks.
It's dog paddle time for you, oh I realise it is a sin to drown you all.
I'm full of regret, I won't do it again, never never again, rainbow
An Addition to that
God created everything - and therefore created evil as well.
And god saw everything it created and said it was GOOD
To if everything evil is good to the god - then sin does not exist
