(February 27, 2013 at 2:11 pm)ronedee Wrote:(February 26, 2013 at 12:23 am)Question Mark Wrote: I'd also like to add that, in addition to this, god being the all-knowing omnipresent being that he apparently is, he must have known exactly what Adam and Eve were going to do, and knew full well that his actions by putting the tree in the garden with Adam and Eve was going to doom humanity to sin and sedition for all eternity, by his rules and by the judgements he laid down as law.
In short, if this story is true, there's no getting around the fact that it's god's fault that it happened, and that there's overwhelming evidence to the fact that he had planned the whole thing to go the way that it did.
Well then....if that's your case?
He made up for it by sending His only Son as a sacrafice to Sin.
And to elaborate a little: It isn't for "eternity"! Jesus broke the bond of Sin, because He was sinless...but died anyway! The short answer? He broke the curse of God against us! You see Death was meant for Sinners, NOT THE SINLESS! Making more sense now? Probably NOT.
First of all, captain capslock, I could do with a little less attitude, and little maturity when discussing topics if you please.
But hang on for just a moment. The all-powerful, all knowing creator of the universe intentionally doomed his supposedly favourite creations to eternal hellfire because of something he cursed us with, and the only known solution to this was to send himself down as his own son, perform some magic tricks, get himself executed as a sacrifice of himself, to himself, and then require that everyone acknowledge this supposed sacrifice, which doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice to me since he got to be god and rule over all of humanity for eternity afterwards, in order to remove the curse that he put on us anyway?
That was the best thing he could think of? You know, instead of just removing sin from us, or I don't know, just forgiving us for the sins he put in us? He needed a blood sacrifice of his own mortal shell instead of just forgiving people?
Are you honestly trying to tell people that any of this makes any sense whatsoever? Except maybe to the bronze age sheep farmers who invented it all?
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.
