Gods forgiveness is worthless.

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As it says that you're a Catholic in your religious view bit there, I'm going to assume that your idea of a god is the one found int he bible.
As such, you describe god as the Einstein to our box of rocks in terms of intelligence. I would ask then, why it is that none of your gods plans, schemes, or ideas ever seem to work, or are at least unnecessarily and bafflingly convoluted when he is omniscient, and therefore has the gift of retrospect before events have even taken place.

Would you please give your thoughts on this matter?

Very obviously, I've described God in the simplest terms.

The thing is previously, that I've explained in some detail my views on God's plan. But no one here understands it in religious terms.

What is self evident to me, is not to you, or anyone that doesn't have the gift of Faith. And Faith is what our relationship with God is based on!

So, I feel that the only way to make some sense in the faithless mind is to appeal to things that they know. Which backfires a lot, because I get "correcting" scripture thrown back at me from unbelievers no-less!

You had an excellent question to Drich....about wanting to know how God is to reveal Himself to us. That is the best question I've heard from an Atheist!

The answer is: God reveals Himself in everything! The diference is....(and here I go again)..... in simple terms; the room being lit, or in darkness! God is there whether we see Him or not.

We need to reachout and turn the light on! Faith is again, the basis of our religion. God needs to prove nothing to us! He gave us LIFE! What we do with it is up to us!

I can't say, nor anyone how your path to Him will lead. But His promise is that IF you earnestly seek Him, you shall find Him.

In simple terms again.... sort of like our faith in Gravity. We know it's there. We can't see it, we don't really understand it, but we "know" it will hold us, and keeps us from flying away and being lost in space. And we accept that theory...even though we can't, don't or won't understand it!

So, we can trust without understanding some things! Why can't we trust the main thing...God? Because He he won't make our day nice? Sometimes Gravity makes us fall...and from high up! Do we blame it for falling and dying? No! We would laugh at someone doing that!

Just food for thought

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By your own logic, I would have to have faith to be shown evidence.

The fact is that if god were indeed omniscient and omnipotent, he would know EXACTLY what it would take to convince me that he exists and then would provide that evidence regardless of the state of my heart, hard or soft.

"convince me" !

LOL! Couldn't God be asking the same from us? I mean really now...who is the God here? <<<< GOD!