RE: Is the catholic church a force for good?
February 27, 2013 at 10:32 pm
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2013 at 10:38 pm by Lion IRC.)
(February 27, 2013 at 2:24 am)justin Wrote:(February 27, 2013 at 2:01 am)Lion IRC Wrote: Yes.read these as your response was ordered.
* Charity provider.
* Soul food and comfort for spiritual people. (Human need. Psyche)
* Defender of the Ten Commandments. (Social cohesion)
* Long-standing, mainstream institution forming an integral part of our deeply-rooted human culture of religion and traditions. (Religion is culture. Much like our inherent love of music, painting, cuisine, etc.) Try taking it away!
* Historical forerunner of the modern city/nation State. Provider of education, national security, rule of law.
* Historical patron of science.
* Willing to justify their faith with reason rather than fundamentalism or violence.
* And any evils done by wayward or pretending catholics hiding in the clergy (eg. atheists, pedophiles, etc) can be clearly demonstrated as unbiblical, anti-Christian and heretical.
OK.
Quote:charity giver- does that mean that all the bad things are ignored becuase they gave money? no.
It's about the overall nett good. And I explained that before you can accuse the Church of doing ''bad stuff'' you would need to show that those deeds were actually approved and formally advocated by the Church in accordance with its scriptural doctrines. You cant blame the Church for actions which the Church renounces as sinful.
Quote:soul food and comfort for spiritual- so? people who worship kim jong il say it brings them comfort. does that mean he is a force for good? no.
We arent talking about Kim Jong Il. Try to stay focussed.
If religious praying/meditating lowers stress and makes (the majority of) people happy and if happiness is regarded as ethical objective for society then who are you to tell people to stop?
Quote:ten commandments suck. we don`t need it for morals nor did we ever, nor is it moral.
Thou shalt not kill. That doesnt suck
Thou shalt not lie. That doesnt suck
Thou shalt not steal. That doesnt suck
Honor your mother and father (originators of the basic family unit).
That doesnt suck
Quote:culture changes and progressess. religions doesn`t.
People tend to prefer eternal truths when it comes to the meaning of life issues.
Where did I come from? Do I matter? Is there an afterlife? Does sin/evil exist? What is life? Is the Harlem Shake is better than Gangnam style. etc. etc.
