RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 1, 2013 at 4:05 am
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2013 at 4:17 am by Aractus.)
(February 28, 2013 at 10:12 am)Question Mark Wrote: The salient difference between homosexuality and cannibalism in terms of the relationship between animals and humans, is that the concept of homosexuality on its own is entirely innocuous, whereas cannibalism as a way of life is intrinsically invasive on the lives of other people.So? We could avoid those problems by eating our criminals, or our children when they die or our parents when they die? In many animals that is normal behaviour. In even more animals it is normal behaviour to fight for a mate, sometime even to the death, and in many cases even when the one you're fighting is already the mate's present mate! Should we do that too?
IE. those people getting eaten.
(February 28, 2013 at 2:18 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:EXACTLY.(February 28, 2013 at 11:58 am)Brian37 Wrote: Why is this even a debate. Sexuality is a range, not a script, people who fear the sexuality of others need to grow the fuck up and get over themselves.Because not everyone shares your beliefs identically fuck nut.
And that a debate is often used to reach a consensus by facts, evidence, rhetoric and fair amount of criticism and cross examination.
Sexuality is a range, yes, but there are acceptable ways of expressing it and unacceptable ways, helpful ways, unhelpful ways, dare I say, moral and immoral ways, there are beneficial ways and there are harmful ways. Just like violence. Violence can be expressed in a healthy way or an unhealthy way. For instance, going to the gym and laying into a boxing bag for half an hour - or - going home and beating your wife, can you tell which one is the better way to express violence Brian37?
(February 28, 2013 at 2:34 pm)Question Mark Wrote: There's no legitimate secular argument against it.Um, yes there is.
Adoption. Children need both a mother and father, this has been proven again and again. Children can be raised without a mother or without a father, but the best possible environment is with both a male father and a female mother. Just like you can cut off their right arm from birth and they'll still live and develop "normally", a child is supposed to have both their arms.
Speaking as someone who grew up without a father from the age of 10 I can personally attest to the truth of this.
Allowing children to be adopted by single people or by homosexual couples denies them the best possible start in life, and intentionally denies them either a mother or a father. Adoption is, after all, concerned with the best interests of the child first and foremost and not the "rights" or "interests" of adults.
There's your secular argument. Go nuts.
When coming from the religious quarter, there's only "because god says it's bad", which if you think about it, isn't actually a reason, it's just an arbitrary prohibition. There's no "and god says so, because this could happen, and it affects people this way, &c.".
It's really just an emotional appeal, and not grounded in facts or real consequences.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke