RE: The difference between ethical atheism and nihlism is that ethical atheists have more faith
March 2, 2013 at 2:37 pm
(March 2, 2013 at 10:34 am)whateverist Wrote: Well alright then. Yes it was a dig inspired by you but deserved by many. Just to be clear though, I hardly think being compared to a theist is any insult. And, like most theists, you cling to unjustified objectivism.
Except I did justify it and you weren't able to argue against it.
(March 2, 2013 at 10:34 am)whateverist Wrote: Or else the self appointed judge who wrote the rule book he thinks applies to others is wrong. On this we obviously disagree.
What rule book?
(March 2, 2013 at 10:34 am)whateverist Wrote: Actually I did give a reason why I haven't bothered. If you were to provide me with even the slimmest outline of your argument so I could see if there was any hope for your project, I might actually look into it. Otherwise I don't intend to apply the effort required to verify what I already have good reason to believe is doomed.
So you want me to take my detailed and well-thought out argument, remove all justifications, reasoning and evidence I've provided therein, reduce it to a bunch of statements that would necessarily look like bare assertions and present it to you so that you could do what - say that these are just assertions that you have no reason to consider? Excuse me if I don't fall for that.
Sorry, but that is not how a rational debate works. Rejecting a proposition when justification is absent is a reasonable position, but that is not yours. Justification has been provided but you refuse to look at because "meh, it may not be valid". That is the same as a theist going "la la la - can't hear you.".
(March 2, 2013 at 10:34 am)whateverist Wrote: That's right. Where we disagree is in thinking that there is any objective basis for anyone's morality or that justification is required.
Then you'd have no cause to complain if someone steals from you or kills you.