RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 11:01 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2013 at 11:21 pm by Question Mark.)
(March 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm)mo66 Wrote:(March 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm)Question Mark Wrote: Not it isn't a STRAWMAN, captain capslock, because you're using the fact that a lot of gay men sodomize to persecute them, without persecuting hetereosexuals. Do you deny that you're only having a go at homosexuals for doing this?This thread is about homosexuals, hence me talking about homosexuals. Not too difficult to figure that one out!
If you included heteros, then I would be misunderstanding what you're saying, which might not happen if instead of crying strawman, you simply explained yourself.
I don't have an argument to put to you, because you haven't presented an argument, which is very odd on a forum. All you've done is say that it's icky, which is not an argument for anything.
If you don't want to argue a point, then it beggars belief why you're even here.
Did I say it was "icky"? Captain Strawman strikes again!
You basically have absolutely no valid arguments. Building strawmen is all you seem to be doing. Total waste of time.
The irony here is that you're committing the actual strawman, by rearranging my point against you into something you can easily dismiss. Passive aggressive and disingenuous.
(March 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm)Gabriel Syme Wrote: This is wilful self delusion.
In 2011, in my part of the UK gay men caused 67% of all new HIV infections.
In 2012, it rose to 71% of all new HIV infection among gay men.
These levels of statistics - that gay men cause 2/3 - 3/4 of all new HIV infections - are repeated throughout western societies, from the Uk, to the US, to Australia.
The next biggest HIV+ positive group in the UK is people from the 3rd world who have come to seek treatment.
The fact is, HIV In the west is strongly associated with homosexual men, and if they stopped homosexual activity, HIV proliferation would fall dramatically, immediately - saving lives and taxpayers money.
I have demonstrated this beyond doubt In the thread I linked you to previously.
As for Africa - its a different set of circumstances entirely; factors such as war - among which widespread rape took place - lawlessness and cultural issues (violent sexism etc) all contribute.
I like that last bit, where you hurriedly dismiss the bit about Africa. Not the least since the Catholic church is propagating the spread of diseases there by spreading false information about the "sinful" nature of contraception.
That, is willful self delusion.
67% does not make for 100%, either. One could easily make the same argument in favour of saying that it's a coloured virus, since a majority of HIV cases int he US at least are amongst blacks and hispanics. But I don't hear anyone toting that line for some reason.
Lastly, opening a comment to someone with a sentence that directly assaults their intellectual honesty and integrity is base rudeness. Grow up.
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.