RE: islamic forums
March 5, 2013 at 5:04 am
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2013 at 6:06 am by paulpablo.)
(March 5, 2013 at 4:54 am)Aractus Wrote:Wrong, i was relying on translations from a website which gave me several translations all saying the word day except one which said periods.(January 10, 2013 at 4:18 pm)ThatMuslimGuy Wrote: Sorry was at college. Ive explained how yaum or ayaum has various meanings such as day, age, period of time. And in the Qur'an a specific yaum has been used to refer to a 1000 years and a yaum being 50,000 years showing that a yaum doesn't always specifically mean a 24 hour day. Whenever ive been in Islamic lectures the speaker who understands arabic always specifies if 6 "yaums" are mentioned that in arabic it can mean a day or a period of time. Ive been in lectures from graduates of Medina university in saudi arabia who have said this. And as they have studied in the one of the best islamic university's in the world and know Arabic fluently they obv understand arabic. The point is it doesnt say "Day" it says yaum or plural ayaum which can mean day,age,period of time.Though I don't agree with you, I can see you know you're Arabic well unlike the OP who thinks he knows more about a language he's never studied.
In response to why refer to why give an amount. Because Allah is saying he created the universe in six stages.
Pretty strange for muslims who put such great effort into preserving the quran to get the translation wrong 3 or 4 times.
Additionally i think I've already said i know nothing of arabic.
Quote:Indeed, your Lord is Allah , who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly; and [He created] the sun, the moon, and the stars, subjected by His command. Unquestionably, His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah , Lord of the worlds.
Muhsin Khan
Indeed your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He Istawa (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the Creation and Commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)!
Pickthall
Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days, then mounted He the Throne. He covereth the night with the day, which is in haste to follow it, and hath made the sun and the moon and the stars subservient by His command. His verily is all creation and commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!
Yusuf Ali
Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds!
Shakir
Surely your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods of time, and He is firm in power; He throws the veil of night over the day, which it pursues incessantly; and (He created) the sun and the moon and the stars, made subservient by His command; surely His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah, the Lord of the worlds.
Dr. Ghali
Surely your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days. Thereafter He leveled Himself upon the Throne (How He did so is beyond human understanding). He envelops the daytime (with) the night, (which) seeks it out promptly, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars are subjected to His Command. Verily, to Him (belong) the creation and the Command. Supremely Blessed be Allah, The Lord of the worlds.
Have you heard the expression 2 out of 3 aint bad? well I'd say 1 in 5 is pretty bad. 1 in 5 of these translations of the quran is right. Actually not even right, just not specific enough to be completely incorrect. And this is just the standard website i always go to because of the fact it has several translations.
Oh and by the way i can see this is perfect evidence of why allah would use arabic for a language, it really is a "rich" language if you can't differentiate between 60000 years or whatever, and 6 days.
And also Judaism says 6 days, christianity says 6 days, next religion comes along which is pretty much based on the previous 2 religions says 6 days, then all of a sudden ohhhh wait no it COULD mean 6 periods of time. You don't have to be columbo to see that something is suspicious here even if you don't understand arabic.
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