Is the catholic church a force for good?

[EGross]

So we have a scale? On one side, all of the good. And on the other side, a pile of corpses and emotionally and physically tortured beings.

You want to argue that the side where the pile of dead and wrecked bodies is not as heavy as the side that represents the charity work.

I suppose that one could make the argument that the Chuch is the "New Church" and all of the horrible things of the past has been erased.

But you speak of people who despise what the church actually stands for cannot think for themselves.

I would suggest that the opposite argument is the true one.

Theft, murder, torture, refusing to save lives, rape, pederasty, and so much more. Even if you say "New Pope, we start over", we all know that some of it will continue. The stolen papers from the last Pope expressed his dismay that the guys running the show are unwilling to be a force for good.

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The Catholic Church needs a new Martin Luther, but a nice one this time!