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Misconceptions of Christian theology
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RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology
(March 4, 2013 at 11:56 pm)jstrodel Wrote: What is the sort of proof that is required?

The most extraordinary kind of proof imaginable, to match the most extraordinary claims you make. It has to withstand every imaginable kind of scrutiny. It has to be entirely immune to doubt.

Does that sound harsh? That's not our problem. Christians have had the luxury of defining God so that physical scrutiny of him is impossible, but in the act of making God impossible to disprove, they have made it equally impossible to display evidence of him. To make up for the logical box they've locked themselves into, they make special exceptions for themselves. We cannot know God, unless you're super special and ask in just the right way which is apparently unique for every individual. That way, believers can have their cake and eat it, too.

But, that only works if you're willing to make insane assumptions and are good at self-delusion, because believing in 'proof' of an unproveable God means that all you're really doing is seeing God where there is none, because you want him to be there.

In the Bible, God rarely hides. He makes sure everyone, believer and non, is aware that he is there. The transformation from consistent and blatant interference to the completely invisible skydaddy who only appears to those who pass a lot of very specific spiritual tests is nowhere documented and has forced believers into ever more heinously ridiculous interpretations of reality so that it bears some resemblance to the awful narrative by which they live their lives.
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Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 4, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Minimalist - March 4, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 4, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 5, 2013 at 6:31 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Ryantology - March 5, 2013 at 4:53 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 5, 2013 at 5:39 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 5, 2013 at 9:10 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Aractus - March 6, 2013 at 9:58 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 6, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Jackalope - March 5, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Aractus - March 5, 2013 at 6:36 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 1:51 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 5, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Aractus - March 6, 2013 at 5:45 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by LastPoet - March 6, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Aractus - March 6, 2013 at 10:07 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by LastPoet - March 6, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Aractus - March 7, 2013 at 3:12 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Aractus - March 7, 2013 at 7:02 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 7, 2013 at 8:16 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Aractus - March 7, 2013 at 8:54 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 7, 2013 at 9:26 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 7, 2013 at 9:29 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 7, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 7, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 7, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 7, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by LastPoet - March 7, 2013 at 7:07 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Zen Badger - March 6, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by frankiej - March 5, 2013 at 9:18 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by LastPoet - March 5, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 5, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 5, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 5, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by catfish - March 6, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 6, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by catfish - March 7, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by genkaus - March 5, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Whateverist - March 6, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Ryantology - March 6, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Angrboda - March 7, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by ronedee - March 7, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 7, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by ronedee - March 7, 2013 at 12:35 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by LastPoet - March 6, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 7, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Lion IRC - March 9, 2013 at 2:15 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by EGross - March 9, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by John V - March 10, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by EGross - March 10, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Angrboda - March 10, 2013 at 6:52 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Zen Badger - March 10, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by ThomM - March 10, 2013 at 9:15 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Minimalist - March 10, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by EGross - March 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by ThomM - March 10, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:02 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Cyberman - March 10, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by EGross - March 11, 2013 at 4:35 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Cyberman - March 10, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Ryantology - March 11, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 12:29 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Esquilax - March 11, 2013 at 12:52 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Ryantology - March 11, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Cyberman - March 11, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: Misconceptions of Christian theology - by Minimalist - March 11, 2013 at 11:40 am

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