Misconceptions of Christian theology

[Zen Badger]

You don't know a fucking THING about Evolution do you Danny boy?

It is you who doesn't know a fucking thing about Evolution, actually, Zen.

Shall I explain it to you?

The main mechanism for successful gene transfer is individuals competing against each other in a given species.

To quote; "A zebra doesn't have to be able to run faster than a lion, it just has to be able to run faster than the other zebras"

That's the "selfish gene" viewpoint 101 completely textbook. And by textbook I mean 1976 Richard Dawkins. Well done on schooling us on something nearly 40 years old and 40 years out of date.

Genes don't have a will, genes don't get to do anything in their own interests, the only thing they're allowed to do is serve the best interests of the host creature.

Let's for a moment consider that your argument, oh sorry, I mean Richard Dawkin's argument, is in fact correct and that genes that provide an advantage in physical agility will indeed beat those that don't. Never mind the other functions that said genes have FYI, dexterity, intelligence, and strength be damned! What about the gene that allows the Zebra to produce offspring 1 year earlier than the other Zebras? Wouldn't that win out over agility - now it doesn't matter if the Zebra is fat and lazy because it only has to survive a shorter length of time to reproduce. But that idea has a problem too. For instance, why the fuck do female turtles get progressively more fertile the older and older they get??? How does that make any selfish-gene "Evolutionary" sense!

Well it doesn't matter anyway because biologists have had 40 years to find evidence that the "selfish gene" provides a strong enough influence upon Evolution to drive it, and they have not found observations that provides this evidence - there may be a small "selfish-gene" effect, but it isn't strong enough in and of itself to drive evolution.

Do try to actually learn about the subject before you spout off or you'll start sounding like Cumfart or the Hamster(with even less credibility)

Oh get fucked Zen. I have a deeper belief in Evolution than you do, because my belief is blinder than yours. You believe in bullshit like the selfish gene - yet I disbelieve the selfish gene and STILL blindly believe evolution! Explain that one to me Zen.

Oh dear, you completely missed the point I was making.(either that or you're deliberately trying to steer the conversation in a different direction).

The ability of a zebra to outrun other zebras merely illustrates my point that the main competition isn't between predator and prey. If it was the race would be over in very short order.

The predator(along with a whole bunch of other factors) gives the prey a context to evolve against. Think about it. A female starling lays 12-14 eggs at a time. If ALL those babies made it to breeding age exponential growth would have the planet covered in a thick layer of starlings in no time. As it is, on average only two of those baby birds will get to breed. The ones best able to survive when all their siblings have died.

So I don't know why you're banging on about the selfish gene. That wasn't the point I was making.

And blindly believing in Evolution? That's even more foolish than blindly believing in god.

I on the hand, accept it because the evidence presented is solid and the theory that accounts for the evidence actually makes logical sense.