Is the catholic church a force for good?

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However unlike the Christian who sins, none of Mr Hitchens' fellow atheists could hold up a bible and say...see how you have sinned.

My point is that the Christian can do something ''righteous'' and that Christian's Church would endorse it biblically. And that same Christian could also sin and they would for the very same reason, agree that the Church's admonishment was based on a standard set by the same God.

Unless you're actually arguing that no atheist has ever admitted to doing something wrong and recognizing that it was wrong, then you're arguing nothing at all.

The only real difference is, when an atheist cops to their wrongdoing, they're accepting responsibility for something real and making amends to the people they've actually wronged, not praying to the voices in their heads and then informing the people they've harmed that magic sky daddy has forgiven them, so it's all okay. That's the difference.