The difference between ethical atheism and nihlism is that ethical atheists have more faith

[genkaus]

There is your approach to teleology, you just make it up. You have a debate, people debate about what the ends of different parts of life are, but there is actually no way to resolve the debate or say what the final end of anything is or where it stops, there are a million different ways that are judged by "explanatory power", as defined by whoever defines whatever they want in whatever way they want.

Don't make me repeat my arguments. That any so called purposes or ends are made up by humans does not mean we make it up. I've already told you that the way to resolve the debate is by justifying your proposition. There may be a million different ways - but none of them should be considered valid unless a rationale is provided for them. So no, whoever cannot define whatever they in whatever way they want.

Hey genkaus, have you seen the thread on ecstasy?

I haven't even seen a thread high. Where did it score ecstasy?