Willaim Craig: Evil is proof that God exists.
March 10, 2013 at 12:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2013 at 12:47 pm by EGross.)
Just do a search for "Sam Harris William Craig debate" on you tube. And, I kid you not, he says the following:
His understanding that good and evil are God, in that all the He is sustains and permeates His creations, and therefore without Him there would be no Evil, because without Evil there can be no Good from which to discern.
Sam Harris' position is that, no, people would still do bad things and people would still do Good things, whether or not a God exists. And it is not through the written word of questionable books that establish our morality, but just as we no longer desire slavery as part of our evolution as people, despite its support in the Bible, so too does a society establish an object set of morality that we can say "feeding the hungry is good, letting a child die because your God wrote in a book that He will heal her for you, is bad." (My examples. His were much longer and better).
So does Evil prove the existance of God? After all, in Isaiah the prophet wrote God saying "Manifestor of light and and maker of darkness, maker of peace and manifestor of evil. I am the God who does all these things." (from memory).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL9250...jXCHgPaZO4
Quote:Evil actually proves the existance of God. Since with the absence of God, good and evil would not exist. You cannot press both the problem of evil and my contention that if God does not exist, then objective morals and values do not exist because evil will acutally be an argument for the existance of God.
His understanding that good and evil are God, in that all the He is sustains and permeates His creations, and therefore without Him there would be no Evil, because without Evil there can be no Good from which to discern.
Sam Harris' position is that, no, people would still do bad things and people would still do Good things, whether or not a God exists. And it is not through the written word of questionable books that establish our morality, but just as we no longer desire slavery as part of our evolution as people, despite its support in the Bible, so too does a society establish an object set of morality that we can say "feeding the hungry is good, letting a child die because your God wrote in a book that He will heal her for you, is bad." (My examples. His were much longer and better).
So does Evil prove the existance of God? After all, in Isaiah the prophet wrote God saying "Manifestor of light and and maker of darkness, maker of peace and manifestor of evil. I am the God who does all these things." (from memory).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL9250...jXCHgPaZO4
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders