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Objective Morals+
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RE: Objective Morals+
(March 11, 2013 at 4:12 pm)John V Wrote: Er, no, you haven't established that fact.

I'm sorry. Do I really need to explain why "might makes right" is morally bankrupt?

Or is there another part you didn't understand?

Quote:I would note that an omniscient creator god would have better information at his disposal on which to make judgments. In the end, though, it's his subjective judgment.

It sounds like you're advocating for option #2, that God has such wisdom and knowledge as to evaluate each situation and the character to make the right conclusion in his/her/its moral evaluation. So God evaluates that something is good because it is good.

That being the case, good is good with or without God saying so. Good would continue to be good if God were to ever not say so, or go away, or say otherwise, or turn out never to have existed. Right?
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Objective Morals+ - by FallentoReason - March 11, 2013 at 12:38 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Darkstar - March 11, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Ryantology - March 11, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by ideologue08 - March 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 11, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by ideologue08 - March 11, 2013 at 1:33 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 11, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 11, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 11, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 11, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 11, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Whateverist - March 13, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by ideologue08 - March 11, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Something completely different - March 11, 2013 at 1:32 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by ideologue08 - March 11, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Something completely different - March 11, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by CleanShavenJesus - March 11, 2013 at 5:08 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Ryantology - March 11, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by TromboneAtheist - March 11, 2013 at 5:14 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 12, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 12, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2013 at 10:18 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 12, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 12, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 12, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 12, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Ryantology - March 12, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 10:52 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2013 at 10:50 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 8:23 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 13, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 13, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 13, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by The Grand Nudger - March 12, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by Ryantology - March 12, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by CleanShavenJesus - March 13, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 13, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 13, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 13, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Objective Morals+ - by DeistPaladin - March 13, 2013 at 8:57 pm

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