Objective Morals+

[John V]

No, I offered you logical proofs.

All I saw was assertion of opinion.

Rape is part of the natural order.

Rape is a choice.[/quote]
It's part of nature. You suggested that things which are part of the natural order are moral. That leads to anything goes, as everything is part of the natural order, unless you give man some supernatural aspect. Christianity does that - the soul, or man being made in god's image - and so can distinguish between killing people and killing other sentient creatures. So far, you haven't given reason for that distinction.

Eating is not.

Eating animals is. Vegans get by without killing animals. And you sidestepped the fact that many of us kill animals just because they annoy us, even though we're not going to eat them and they pose no threat to our health.

You can’t tell me if it’s wrong to kill other sentient creatures, but claim that your morality is superior to the Bible’s?

In a surprise turn of events in this discussion, I'll tell you I don't know everything and don't have all the answers. [/quote]
We're talking about whether it's moral to kill sentient creatures. This isn't a case of not knowing everything. You can't answer one of the most basic questions of morality.