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California Proposition 8
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RE: California Proposition 8
(November 18, 2008 at 1:24 pm)Tiberius Wrote: A religion is something that explains the nature and purpose of the universe. Atheists do not agree on anything on these points other than no god was involved. Therein lies the problem.

I'd also never like to be part of a religion that based it's beliefs on faith. I'd be happy to join a religion that only used scientific methods for basing beliefs. No faith = great!

I don't understand the skeptics view on religion. I only understand that they hate it as much as I do. You say that a religion is something that explains the nature and purpose of the universe. If I look at what I would call religion and what I would call science, I would say that that applies to science not religion.

If I were to ask you what you think the nature and purpose of the universe is you would use science rather than religion to address the question.

You say that Atheists don't agree on anything on these points except that there is no God and I say theists don't agree on anything on these points except that there is a God. So what? Doesn't matter.

You say therein lies the problem? Why? Science doesn't agree on all of it and you call that evidence. That doesn't make any sense, does it?

But you don't want faith? Look - I didn't say anything about faith. Why interject the word faith into the conversation? Can you name a religion or two that doesn't incorporate faith? When I hear stuff like that I think it sounds like someone has been brainwashed - possibly by their own hatred of something. Usually their own former religion.

I know that it is very difficult to accept but scientific method leaves a great deal of room for interpretation and faith. You can't keep calling something factual and evidence when it changes into something else that can't be tested, proved blah. blah. blah. Just because a bunch of science minded people 'Believe' in it.

Religion is any object of conscientious regard and pursuit. If you have faith only in 'scientific method' then the variations of possible error that would seem to divide 'the indipendant minded athiests' within that religion itself wouldn't be divisive because the object would be the pursuit itself.

I think that I am going to go ahead and form an Atheistic religion ...
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California Proposition 8 - by Meatball - November 14, 2008 at 11:55 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - November 15, 2008 at 6:39 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 15, 2008 at 11:39 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Eilonnwy - November 17, 2008 at 2:05 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 17, 2008 at 4:56 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 15, 2008 at 11:04 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - December 15, 2008 at 11:38 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 17, 2008 at 8:19 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2008 at 9:13 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 17, 2008 at 11:02 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 17, 2008 at 11:27 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 17, 2008 at 11:37 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 18, 2008 at 1:13 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - November 19, 2008 at 11:07 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 18, 2008 at 1:42 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 18, 2008 at 11:00 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 18, 2008 at 11:30 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - November 18, 2008 at 11:46 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 19, 2008 at 10:44 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 1:50 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - November 19, 2008 at 2:40 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 19, 2008 at 6:49 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 10:58 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by allan175 - November 20, 2008 at 5:03 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 20, 2008 at 10:19 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 20, 2008 at 2:16 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Tiberius - November 18, 2008 at 1:24 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 18, 2008 at 1:55 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by allan175 - November 19, 2008 at 5:18 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 19, 2008 at 1:12 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 19, 2008 at 3:09 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 10:05 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by allan175 - November 19, 2008 at 11:22 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - November 20, 2008 at 3:03 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 20, 2008 at 4:17 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - November 20, 2008 at 4:53 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Tiberius - November 20, 2008 at 7:47 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 20, 2008 at 7:53 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 20, 2008 at 10:31 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 20, 2008 at 11:19 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 21, 2008 at 12:44 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 21, 2008 at 2:57 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 21, 2008 at 11:16 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 21, 2008 at 1:12 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 22, 2008 at 12:44 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - November 22, 2008 at 5:29 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 22, 2008 at 5:43 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - November 22, 2008 at 6:03 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by lukec - December 3, 2008 at 5:09 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 3, 2008 at 5:27 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - December 15, 2008 at 10:06 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - December 16, 2008 at 1:58 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - December 16, 2008 at 5:27 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 16, 2008 at 5:44 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - December 16, 2008 at 5:59 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 16, 2008 at 6:28 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 17, 2008 at 11:38 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 11:52 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - December 17, 2008 at 1:07 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 1:09 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - December 17, 2008 at 1:14 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - December 17, 2008 at 1:14 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 17, 2008 at 2:02 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 2:08 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 17, 2008 at 2:16 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 8:38 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - December 17, 2008 at 7:25 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 18, 2008 at 12:01 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2008 at 12:09 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 18, 2008 at 11:16 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2008 at 12:33 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 18, 2008 at 10:54 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2008 at 11:00 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 19, 2008 at 7:41 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 20, 2008 at 1:22 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Meatball - December 20, 2008 at 5:49 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 23, 2008 at 11:39 am

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