RE: Argument from perpetual identity against naturalism.
March 20, 2013 at 1:10 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2013 at 1:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Actually, I only have to distinguish it from between two types of beliefs..
"Beliefs that are properly basic, in that they do not depend upon justification of other beliefs, but on something outside the realm of belief (a "non-doxastic justification")"
or
"Beliefs that derive from one or more basic beliefs, and therefore depend on the basic beliefs for their validity"
but lets have a go.
-The statement contains different type of beliefs but is a belief itself. - This wouldn't help me to determine whether or not the beliefs were properly basic. The difference between a belief and a properly basic belief isn't going to be highlighted by whether or not they are both beliefs....so this one seems useless. It's not about whether the beliefs contained in the statement are different, or whether or not they are beliefs, but whether or not one depends on another.
-The statement is a belief itself and contains different type of beliefs, and is believed on the basis of other beliefs.-
Right, such as a statement about belief in certain attributes of something being based upon a belief that said something exists to have attributes in the first place...... The question I keep asking, can you believe that your identity is perpetual without believing that you have an identity?
But you're angling for the third, so make that work, line up the dominoes for me on that count?
"Beliefs that are properly basic, in that they do not depend upon justification of other beliefs, but on something outside the realm of belief (a "non-doxastic justification")"
or
"Beliefs that derive from one or more basic beliefs, and therefore depend on the basic beliefs for their validity"
but lets have a go.
-The statement contains different type of beliefs but is a belief itself. - This wouldn't help me to determine whether or not the beliefs were properly basic. The difference between a belief and a properly basic belief isn't going to be highlighted by whether or not they are both beliefs....so this one seems useless. It's not about whether the beliefs contained in the statement are different, or whether or not they are beliefs, but whether or not one depends on another.
-The statement is a belief itself and contains different type of beliefs, and is believed on the basis of other beliefs.-
Right, such as a statement about belief in certain attributes of something being based upon a belief that said something exists to have attributes in the first place...... The question I keep asking, can you believe that your identity is perpetual without believing that you have an identity?
But you're angling for the third, so make that work, line up the dominoes for me on that count?
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