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Believing in creationism is a sin
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RE: Believing in creationism is a sin
(March 20, 2013 at 5:49 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(March 19, 2013 at 6:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: Incest is a brother and sister marrying and or having sex. As for genes to be mentioned in scriptures, do you really believe those of that time would have known what God was talking about, God knew, He designed man. What the people would recognize is the unhealthy offspring of such a union. Just because I use today's knowledge does not mean it can not be applied to scripture, what we have and are learning was known to God even before creation.

So it was still incestuous. God designed a system of being whereby the only possible way for humans to flourish was constant incestuous sex. That's what I was driving at, something you'd denied earlier because the word is icky to you.

It was not incestuous until God said it was, so from the time of Adam and Eve's children till the time of Moses when the law of no marrying between brothers and sisters was given, it was not wrong. So with these facts from scripture, why do you believe God would wait so long to make this practice sinful. Sure the word is icky, it's been an ingrained thought for more than 3000 years.

Esquilax Wrote:As to this humanity being unable to understand genes at the time, in order to believe that we'd need to make two concessions; one is that god made beings who were incapable of understanding their own physical makeup, something that's manifestly untrue. And that an all knowing and omnipotent god would be incapable of devising a way to explain it that we would understand, which is also untrue according to your own theology.

The people I was referring to were the people of Adam and Eve's time to the time of Moses, they were unable to understand the function of most organs in the body at that time, now how were they to understand a part of the body they could not see. God did make it clear to the people of Moses time, He said no more marrying between brothers and sisters. They actually got it, they knew for some reason God was putting an end to the practice, so they trusted He knew best.

GC Wrote:I'm not making up anything, God knew about genes and how long it would take for them to become corrupted to a point that brothers and sisters having babies would result in children with birth defects leading to an unhealthy population. Man when Christians use their brains they are criticized without cause, and when they don't they are criticized and rightfully so. God put an end to brother sister marriage when he gave the law to Moses.

Esquilax Wrote:You are making things up, and here's why: you have absolutely no scriptural basis with which to be making any of the assertions you've just made. And if it's not in god's good book, then you have nothing even remotely factual backing you up. You're just saying things.

You can't be serious, God the creator of man would obviously know the entire make up of the human body. I know genes are not mentioned in scripture, but it would be ignorant of me to believe God did not know everything about the human body He created, there are things we have no idea about that to God is child's play. So I'm not making things up, I'm using the brain God gave me.

GC Wrote:There is no perfect gene pool, so no a brother and sister should never marry.

Esquilax Wrote:And since you've got no definition for what a "perfect gene pool" would be, or what one could constitute, then you have absolutely no justification for saying any of this.

I do, God created Adam and Eve and said that all was good at the end of the sixth day, if the genes of Adam and Eve were not perfect then God could not have said all is good. When you start out with parents with perfect genes then those perfect genes would be passed on to their children. With sin corrupting the creation from that point on the genes would degrade.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 13, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by festive1 - March 13, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 13, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Drich - March 13, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Whateverist - March 13, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Endo - March 25, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 13, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Napoléon - March 15, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Napoléon - March 16, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by ThomM - March 16, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by festive1 - March 13, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 13, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by festive1 - March 15, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by archangle - March 16, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 16, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Minimalist - March 13, 2013 at 9:07 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Justtristo - March 13, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Drich - March 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 15, 2013 at 5:04 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2013 at 8:18 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 16, 2013 at 8:03 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Brian37 - March 15, 2013 at 6:15 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Joel - March 15, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Napoléon - March 15, 2013 at 9:08 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 16, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Napoléon - March 16, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 16, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 17, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 18, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 19, 2013 at 2:45 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 19, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 20, 2013 at 5:49 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 21, 2013 at 12:26 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 22, 2013 at 6:37 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 22, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 19, 2013 at 5:45 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 19, 2013 at 5:53 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 19, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 20, 2013 at 3:30 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 21, 2013 at 7:01 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 19, 2013 at 7:29 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Justtristo - March 19, 2013 at 5:04 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 17, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 9:31 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 16, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 16, 2013 at 10:45 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Justtristo - March 16, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 16, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Justtristo - March 17, 2013 at 6:34 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by KichigaiNeko - March 16, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Tonus - March 17, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 17, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 19, 2013 at 6:14 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 19, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Joel - March 19, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by ideologue08 - March 22, 2013 at 6:48 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 22, 2013 at 7:07 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by ideologue08 - March 22, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 22, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Tonus - March 22, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by KichigaiNeko - March 22, 2013 at 8:12 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Joel - March 22, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 22, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Whateverist - March 22, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 22, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by FragileTag - March 23, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by KichigaiNeko - March 25, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 25, 2013 at 2:56 pm

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