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Believing in creationism is a sin
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RE: Believing in creationism is a sin
(March 22, 2013 at 6:48 am)mo66 Wrote: I'm a Creationist full disclosure. If a person believes that God can cause a burning bush to speak, part the red sea, turn a staff into a snake, resurrect the dead etc.etc. If a person believes that God can cause all of these miracles which all violate the theories of Physics Biology and Chemistry, then there is no real inconsistency with believing that God can create Adam and Eve and produce humanity as a miracle. Atheists harp on about Adam and Eve, but they seem to ignore the countless miracles in Abraham traditions, it all depends upon belief in God's miracles and power.

And that's the problem. Sure, there's nothing internally inconsistent about a god that's omnipotent and can do all those things, but since everything we've experienced about reality tells us that such miracles do not happen, and there has been no compelling evidence to suggest that such a being actually exists, there's a fundamental incongruity between the stories of god and the reality that he's supposed to inhabit.

The problem is that this isn't enough for atheists but it is enough for theists, so you've got one side expecting logical evidence based on what we can actually prove, and another side who's perfectly willing to fall back on the idea that the things they can't prove are the result of magic, and then expect that that's enough. It's not, and if you fall back on the idea of miracles you've taken the conversation outside of the bounds of rationality, where real debate simply cannot exist. It's impossible to speak in anything but hypotheticals, there.
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Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 13, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by festive1 - March 13, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 13, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Drich - March 13, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Whateverist - March 13, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Endo - March 25, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 13, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Napoléon - March 15, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Napoléon - March 16, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by ThomM - March 16, 2013 at 6:56 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by festive1 - March 13, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 13, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by festive1 - March 15, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by archangle - March 16, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 16, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Minimalist - March 13, 2013 at 9:07 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Justtristo - March 13, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Drich - March 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 15, 2013 at 5:04 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2013 at 8:18 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 16, 2013 at 8:03 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Brian37 - March 15, 2013 at 6:15 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Joel - March 15, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Napoléon - March 15, 2013 at 9:08 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 16, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 16, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Napoléon - March 16, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 16, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 17, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 18, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 19, 2013 at 2:45 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 19, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 20, 2013 at 5:49 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 21, 2013 at 12:26 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 22, 2013 at 6:37 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 22, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 19, 2013 at 5:45 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 19, 2013 at 5:53 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 19, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 20, 2013 at 3:30 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Godschild - March 21, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Silver - March 21, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 21, 2013 at 7:01 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 19, 2013 at 7:29 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Justtristo - March 19, 2013 at 5:04 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 17, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 9:31 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 16, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 16, 2013 at 10:45 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Justtristo - March 16, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 16, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 16, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Justtristo - March 17, 2013 at 6:34 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by KichigaiNeko - March 16, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Tonus - March 17, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 17, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Aractus - March 19, 2013 at 6:14 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 19, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Joel - March 19, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by ideologue08 - March 22, 2013 at 6:48 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 22, 2013 at 7:07 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by ideologue08 - March 22, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Esquilax - March 22, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Tonus - March 22, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by KichigaiNeko - March 22, 2013 at 8:12 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Joel - March 22, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by jstrodel - March 22, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Whateverist - March 22, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Nerd - March 22, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by FragileTag - March 23, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by KichigaiNeko - March 25, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Believing in creationism is a sin - by Cyberman - March 25, 2013 at 2:56 pm

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