Born this way, baby

[TromboneAtheist]

I know that Infidel wants this debate, but you're seriously asking question 3?

Yes, seriously asking it.

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A homosexual.

Which begs the question, what is a homosexual? A person who only has attraction to the same sex? A person who predominantly has attraction, but has some attraction to the opposite? If so, what's the cutoff between gay and bi?

Like most adolescents, I did not wake up one day during the onset of puberty with the arduous decision of having to choose between being sexually attracted toward men or women. Like most individuals, I understood the accepted standard was for boys to like girls and vice versa, but even as late as the age of fourteen and fifteen I did not feel any sexual desire for either gender. I was a late bloomer. When my hormones finally began to change my body, I almost immediately knew that I was different than other guys. I distinctly remember the very first time I had a sexual thought. I was walking from one class to the next, and I was staring at the ass of someone in front of me. It was a great ass, it excited me sexually, and it belonged to a guy. I have never experienced any sexual attraction toward women whatsoever.

Let me clarify - by support I meant scientific studies and such, not your personal testimony. Personal testimony generally isn't accepted as support around here.

It is in reference toward those who believe being gay is a choice. Obviously, I was never faced with a choice of whom to be sexually attracted to. Most everyone can attest to the same thing, whether they are gay or straight.

Let me clarify - what practical considerations are implied by being born with a certain predisposition?

Suppose someone gives a testimony similar to yours claiming that they were born with a violent hatred of homosexuals? You'd likely say that being born that way was irrelevant, and he should be expected to suppress the predisposition and conform to societal norms on violent behavior.

He clearly stated he has never felt any attraction towards a woman. I think we can safely define homosexuality as only having attraction towards the same sex. As far as scientific studies on if homosexuality is a choice or not, you could go seek those out yourself. I think it's irrelevant if it was a choice, so I just assume he's telling the truth with his personal testimony. If someone said they were born with a hatred of homosexuals I'd first tell them they must be a natural asshole. Of course they must suppress the predisposition. The difference between the two situations is that homosexuality does not hurt anyone. Violence obviously does. A first grader could've seen that...