Born this way, baby

[Esquilax]

Maybe you don't understand what a strawman is, I'm finding it hard to believe you're serious half the time.

Would you object (I can supply you with the definition for "objection" again if you need it) to me stating some "atheist" position and then tearing it down or would you expect at least some intelectual honesty?

Otherwise, you guys can sit here and have a circle-jerk to your little hearts content.

It's an abomination I tell ya!!!

Well, I've not exactly encountered an argument against homosexuality that didn't boil down to "it's a sin!" or on this forum "because AIDS," despite how wrong that one is. I've not heard a solitary compelling secular argument against homosexuality; if you've got one, I'd at least listen.

Beyond that, my point about sin still stands: sin is a full stop. I know not every christian acts like this, but the vast majority of the ones I've been exposed to have done this; no matter the actual reasoning behind actions they disagree you provide, at the very base they believe the reason you do these things is because of your underlying sinful nature, which somehow overshadows the real reasons you've given them.

I know that blanket statements aren't useful, but I'd also like to think I don't need to preface every last thing I say with a little asterisk about that.