RE: The concept of Hell discourages belief
March 26, 2013 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2013 at 10:37 am by Drich.)
(March 26, 2013 at 9:17 am)Esquilax Wrote:when was this established? Your making Him seem like a half ass deity. In that you have him paralelling the God of the bible, but he has yet to make any provision for his followers. Poor planning does not seem like a Godly attribute. It's more joseph smithy if anything.(March 26, 2013 at 12:33 am)Drich Wrote: Then allow me to offer my services to you oh, great one. Allow me to make a you tube video of you getting shot/shooting yourself, die and then resurrecting your self.
Eitherway, know he who claim to be God or even all of his Apstoles died terriable deaths, save one. (He died on an Island Prision) So.. it seems you like your sailor buddy are painting yourselves into a corner with only one way out.
What neither of you two genusis fail to comperhend is There is indeed a way to 'prove' if one is God. That is Dead and Resurection. All who claim deity are put to this test in one fashion or another, only one to date has passed.
Who are you to test the divine Ryantology, Drich? He doesn't have to prove himself to you, his truth is written onto the hearts of every man. All you need to do is A/S/K, and you shall know His true nature.
(March 26, 2013 at 9:29 am)Tonus Wrote:Fail, again. The gospels were written in the life times of many of those who were there to contest the eye witness accounts. Which is why I offered my services in the first place. This way we can make eye witness of all of the youtube viewers. Without an established provanunce the gospel of wilbur will fail. as have many many many other claims that support the deity of other 'gods.'(March 26, 2013 at 12:33 am)Drich Wrote: What neither of you two genusis fail to comperhend is There is indeed a way to 'prove' if one is God. That is Dead and Resurection. All who claim deity are put to this test in one fashion or another, only one to date has passed.
Good point. This is all suspect until someone writes a letter to his local congregation explaining how Ryantology died and was reborn in the flesh (even if he did look like someone else until he convinced people by telling them "it's me-- Ryantology!!!). Once we have the Gospel of Wilbur, then we can start taking it seriously.
(March 26, 2013 at 9:59 am)Texas Sailor Wrote:(March 26, 2013 at 12:33 am)Drich Wrote: What neither of you two genusis fail to comperhend is There is indeed a way to 'prove' if one is God. That is Dead and Resurection. All who claim deity are put to this test in one fashion or another, only one to date has passed.
You justifying your God-
If logic doesn't support your God, then it just shows that the type of God logic would support doesn't exist, it doesn't mean that a God which logic does NOT support is false, right?
You explaining why the God we propose must be false-
If you were God, you would die and then resurect yourself, since you have not, then you clearly are not God.
Us explaining to you-
What you fail to comprehend is that a physical body dying and not resurecting itself doesn't prove anything as to the validity of anyones claim to be God. It only allows you to personally to decide if the outcome of such an event, should it occur or not, fits YOUR expectation of what a God-possessed human body SHOULD do if it was killed. It doesn't show that such a requirement is necessary to prove that a God possessed body would NOT produce different results than you expect and yet still actually be a real God-possessed body by the God we claim is real.
Neither of us have evidence, its just bullshit claims that cannot be proved one way or the other.
Its amazing to me that you cannot grasp the concept of an unfalsifiable hypothesis.
The pen is BLUE!!!
(March 26, 2013 at 9:46 am)Drich Wrote: As you have not yet asended into Heaven I would say you would need to do this anytime someone asked. Why else would you be here? After all that is what the reason Christ spent 3 years teaching and establish His deity. He did it through miricals, and ending with His death and resurection, but as you seem to be a one trick pony, then you need to perform your trick to each and every person that asks... For isn't that what you ask of God?
You're an idiot. Which yes, is an Ad Hominem.
Here's another fallacy for ya...
But if you're not going to abide by the rules of logic, why should I?
who says i don't? (with proof)