What a long, strange (and probably pointless) exchange this has been.
I went back a few pages but .. blah, boring!
As for normal vs natural, I'm not sure there is any disagreement that I could find. I gather that Cat agrees that homosexuality is natural (giraffes do it, bonobos do it, we do it, etc.) and that we all agree that it isn't any more normal than left-handedness (though it may go unreported more often than left-handedness). That just leaves "Is it an abomination?"
Did it start with Cat saying homosexuality is an abomination? If so, give him that. If his special sky daddy has a list of no-no's and acting/being gay is on it, then by definition it is an abomination. The correct response would be "so what?"
Is there any real disagreement here that I'm missing or are you all just having a good vetch session? If so, back to it!
I went back a few pages but .. blah, boring!
As for normal vs natural, I'm not sure there is any disagreement that I could find. I gather that Cat agrees that homosexuality is natural (giraffes do it, bonobos do it, we do it, etc.) and that we all agree that it isn't any more normal than left-handedness (though it may go unreported more often than left-handedness). That just leaves "Is it an abomination?"
Did it start with Cat saying homosexuality is an abomination? If so, give him that. If his special sky daddy has a list of no-no's and acting/being gay is on it, then by definition it is an abomination. The correct response would be "so what?"
Is there any real disagreement here that I'm missing or are you all just having a good vetch session? If so, back to it!