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Born this way, baby
RE: Born this way, baby
What a long, strange (and probably pointless) exchange this has been.

I went back a few pages but .. blah, boring!

As for normal vs natural, I'm not sure there is any disagreement that I could find. I gather that Cat agrees that homosexuality is natural (giraffes do it, bonobos do it, we do it, etc.) and that we all agree that it isn't any more normal than left-handedness (though it may go unreported more often than left-handedness). That just leaves "Is it an abomination?"

Did it start with Cat saying homosexuality is an abomination? If so, give him that. If his special sky daddy has a list of no-no's and acting/being gay is on it, then by definition it is an abomination. The correct response would be "so what?"

Is there any real disagreement here that I'm missing or are you all just having a good vetch session? If so, back to it!
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Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 2:42 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 24, 2013 at 7:34 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by downbeatplumb - March 24, 2013 at 7:42 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by KichigaiNeko - March 24, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by Kayenneh - March 24, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 24, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 24, 2013 at 9:46 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by John V - March 24, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by CleanShavenJesus - March 24, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by John V - March 25, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 25, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by John V - March 25, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 25, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by John V - March 25, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by John V - March 25, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 25, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Re: Born this way, baby - by NoraBrimstone - March 24, 2013 at 11:02 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by Ryantology - March 24, 2013 at 11:21 am
Re: RE: Born this way, baby - by frz - March 24, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 24, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Re: Born this way, baby - by frz - March 24, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 24, 2013 at 12:51 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Psykhronic - March 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Ryantology - March 24, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 24, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Re: RE: Born this way, baby - by frz - March 24, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by DeistPaladin - March 24, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Re: Born this way, baby - by NoraBrimstone - March 24, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 24, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 24, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by LastPoet - March 24, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 24, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Tonus - March 24, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 10:57 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by LastPoet - March 24, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 24, 2013 at 5:09 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 24, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 24, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by KichigaiNeko - March 25, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by LastPoet - March 24, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 24, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by KichigaiNeko - March 25, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by DeistPaladin - March 25, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TromboneAtheist - March 25, 2013 at 12:49 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 25, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 25, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 4:38 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 4:40 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 25, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Kayenneh - March 25, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Re: Born this way, baby - by NoraBrimstone - March 25, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by dudeofawesome - March 25, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Re: Born this way, baby - by NoraBrimstone - March 25, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 25, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by TaraJo - March 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 25, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 25, 2013 at 9:10 pm
Re: RE: Born this way, baby - by NoraBrimstone - March 25, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 25, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 26, 2013 at 10:11 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by Cato - March 26, 2013 at 10:07 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 10:12 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 10:15 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by LastPoet - March 26, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 26, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by Tonus - March 26, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by Psykhronic - March 26, 2013 at 11:06 am
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 12:39 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 1:04 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 1:15 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 1:56 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Cato - March 26, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by CleanShavenJesus - March 26, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 26, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by DeistPaladin - March 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by downbeatplumb - March 26, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Whateverist - March 26, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 26, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 3:01 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 3:33 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Esquilax - March 26, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Tonus - March 26, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Whateverist - March 26, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by DeistPaladin - March 26, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Re: Born this way, baby - by NoraBrimstone - March 26, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 26, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 26, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 26, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 26, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 26, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 26, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by Silver - March 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by John V - March 29, 2013 at 1:29 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 26, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by DeistPaladin - March 26, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 26, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by catfish - March 26, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Born this way, baby - by thesummerqueen - March 27, 2013 at 8:19 am

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