Born this way, baby

[thesummerqueen]

How on earth would he know he was gay before puberty? That doesn't mean environment made it so - just that kids normally don't look at the opposite sex like sexual objects until that time.

Mom was a child psychologist (past away about 10 years ago) and I remember how she once told me that there were signs from a very young age, even before puberty. Androgynous behavior (it's apparently not just a stereotype) can be an indication. This is not to say that every tom boyish girl is going to grow up to be a lesbian but there is apparently a correlation.

But you are correct that the environment doesn't make it so, at least as far as the field is concerned.

Here's what I'm still waiting for from him:

1) He says that up till the 70's, homosexuality was listed as a disorder, and then removed as such. He seems to think it should be put back - or at least his tone implied as such. If so, I want to know why he thinks so.

2) He also says that it's an environmental thing, and I want to know why someone 'finally getting in touch with their sexuality' means that it was an environmental factor and not a late-blooming biological one.

I ask the second still because:

While I certainly had a few 'crushes' as a child, I don't personally count these as sexual awareness. Mostly because I get "friend crushes" to this day where I want to spend copious amounts of time and energy and resources on people from either sex, and yet don't want to have sex with them. I could be wrong from a medical perspective.

I didn't even give sex a passing thought until I was 16, despite being fully aware of the mechanics. Most of the people I knew in high school seemed to have developed a fascination with it by 13. Maybe earlier. I don't think that made me asexual.

I also ask it because:

catfish seems to have a grudge against the APA in general, and that alone makes me skeptical of all of his pronouncements on it.

And also because he gave no evidence to back up his assertion.