RE: 3 reasons for Christians to start questionng their faith
March 28, 2013 at 2:06 am
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2013 at 2:18 am by smax.)
[quote='Godschild' pid='422365' dateline='1364446497']
[quote]I noticed that you said practiced Christianity, you should have tried living it. Practicing Christianity is nothing more than making it another religion. One can practice baseball for a long time, but if you do not get into a game you've never played baseball, same with Christianity. [/quote]
I call bullshit right here. What, in your mind, constitutes the difference between living and practicing? And, please, spare us all any hocus pocus here. Provide real examples of the difference in action or conduct?
I'll bet your description will fail to establish any significant difference.
In fact, I'll bet most Christian churches would much prefer a member who is compelled to practice the faith rather than someone who rather ambiguously claims to "live" it.
[quote]How is it that you can ask a Christian to quit living for Christ when you have not first experienced Christ, that to me is most inappropriate, even condescending.[/quote]
I guess you missed a very important part of my post: I don't believe that anyone has experienced Christ. If I did, I certainly wouldn't be encouraging anyone to question that experience.
As for my proposal being inappropriate or condescending, I couldn't disagree more. I am geniunely trying to help people who suffer from a delusional belief. In fact, I'm not only trying to help them, but I'm also indirectly trying to help their potential victims.
Now, had you accused me of being a bit too ambitious or naive in my attempt, I might agree you. Won't stop me, though, as I've been able to effectively plant the seeds of doubt in the past.
And, while you probably consider that to be some sort of terrible evil, I happen to consider it a positive contribution to decent society.
[quote]It is also apparent from reading the post that you did not really understand scripture, did you really study scripture or are you googleing others opinions. [/quote]
Just because you don't like what I have to say does not invalidate it. LOL.
[quote]So, IMO you have no reasons to state any reason, because you are not using reason in your statement.[/quote]
I see a lot of rhetoric from you but nothing of substance. If I'm not using reason, then make that case and stop merely saying I'm not.
Surely you can do better.
By the way, Godschild, you claim that I don't understand scripture and yet you do not even seem remotely familiar with it. If you were, I seriously doubt you would have taken such great offense to the word "practice", which is used numerous times in the New Testament to describe exactly what Christians should be doing.
LOL
Examples:
Philippians 4:9
Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.
1 Timothy 5:4
But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God.
And, finally, the clincher.....
Luke 8:21
He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.”
Better think up a better argument, and fast!
[quote]I noticed that you said practiced Christianity, you should have tried living it. Practicing Christianity is nothing more than making it another religion. One can practice baseball for a long time, but if you do not get into a game you've never played baseball, same with Christianity. [/quote]
I call bullshit right here. What, in your mind, constitutes the difference between living and practicing? And, please, spare us all any hocus pocus here. Provide real examples of the difference in action or conduct?
I'll bet your description will fail to establish any significant difference.
In fact, I'll bet most Christian churches would much prefer a member who is compelled to practice the faith rather than someone who rather ambiguously claims to "live" it.
[quote]How is it that you can ask a Christian to quit living for Christ when you have not first experienced Christ, that to me is most inappropriate, even condescending.[/quote]
I guess you missed a very important part of my post: I don't believe that anyone has experienced Christ. If I did, I certainly wouldn't be encouraging anyone to question that experience.
As for my proposal being inappropriate or condescending, I couldn't disagree more. I am geniunely trying to help people who suffer from a delusional belief. In fact, I'm not only trying to help them, but I'm also indirectly trying to help their potential victims.
Now, had you accused me of being a bit too ambitious or naive in my attempt, I might agree you. Won't stop me, though, as I've been able to effectively plant the seeds of doubt in the past.
And, while you probably consider that to be some sort of terrible evil, I happen to consider it a positive contribution to decent society.
[quote]It is also apparent from reading the post that you did not really understand scripture, did you really study scripture or are you googleing others opinions. [/quote]
Just because you don't like what I have to say does not invalidate it. LOL.
[quote]So, IMO you have no reasons to state any reason, because you are not using reason in your statement.[/quote]
I see a lot of rhetoric from you but nothing of substance. If I'm not using reason, then make that case and stop merely saying I'm not.
Surely you can do better.
By the way, Godschild, you claim that I don't understand scripture and yet you do not even seem remotely familiar with it. If you were, I seriously doubt you would have taken such great offense to the word "practice", which is used numerous times in the New Testament to describe exactly what Christians should be doing.
LOL
Examples:
Philippians 4:9
Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.
1 Timothy 5:4
But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God.
And, finally, the clincher.....
Luke 8:21
He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.”
Better think up a better argument, and fast!