If god were real...

[Baalzebutt]

How can something exist that an omnipotent, omniscient god did not want? Are you saying that there are forces beyond god's control?

God wanted them. They, in and of themselves, are good. The things they do are not.

...so why create them in the first place?

First, he loves them. Apart from that, while they do harm, it ends up being for the benefit of us.

It was meant to show that I believe in Greek mythology. Zeus is the all-powerful, omniscent God. Not your god. Your god isn't real. Zeus is.

Oh, so you were just trolling. I was right in the first place. I figured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but I guess I shouldn't do that.

Quit trying to remove the responsibility from your god. Either he is responsible for everything or he is responsible for nothing.

He's responsible. Completely. And it is better that he created the demons than not.

Spoken like a true apologist.

And so now, we get down to the root of this entire discussion. God did, indeed, create satan.

See how easy that was? We went through all this ridiculous discussion and in the end, all you had to say was, "Yes, god created satan".

So now, can we get back to the original topic of the thread?

To add a bit more to my original point, I believe that if god created man in his own image then man essentially acts and thinks like god (funny how that works out seeing as how god was created by man.)

So the question remains: Why should we not expect of god exactly what he expects of us?