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Islam or Atheism
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RE: Islam or Atheism
Hamsa argument number 1:

Quote:Islam makes sence of the origins of the universe.


Hamsa argument number 2:

Quote:Islam makes sence of the nature of the quoranic discurse.


1:
Quote:"believing in naturalism means that the universe is infinite" "the universe being infinite is irrational because an infinite universe cannot exist in the real world"
followed by alot of bla bla bla bla bla on how infinity is something impossible in what he calls "the real world"
The he appeals to authority be quoting a number of famous people and scientists who say that infinity doesnt exist.

Then he summs up his first argument:

Quote:"An actual infinite cannot exist"
Quote:"An infinite history of past events is an actual infinite, therefor an infinite history of past events cannot exist, therefor the universe is finite and therefor it had a begining"

He then claims to have "astrophysical evidence"


But I already stoped at that point because I could already show how he is wrong without the need of professor Krauss.

Hamsa doe simply not know hoe the universe, or better put: has no idea how relativity, works!!!!
infinite and finite are mesurements of time, time came into existancew with the big bang, time is relative
the beginning of time doesnt mean the beginning of everything.
and to ask what came before time is like asking what is north of the north pole.

Hamsa is a bad boy who didnt listen in physics during highschool



Someone else should now please take Hamsas other "arguments"
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Messages In This Thread
Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 9:23 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 10, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:24 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:36 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:58 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by radorth - April 3, 2013 at 2:18 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:58 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Fruity - March 30, 2013 at 10:04 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:10 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Something completely different - March 30, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:41 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:44 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:48 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:50 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:55 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:55 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - March 30, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:19 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by ThatMuslimGuy2 - March 30, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by mralstoner - March 31, 2013 at 2:47 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Brakeman - March 31, 2013 at 5:24 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 7:27 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - March 31, 2013 at 7:44 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by pocaracas - April 2, 2013 at 5:58 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by archangle - April 2, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by pocaracas - April 2, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Polaris - April 8, 2013 at 11:37 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 10, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 10, 2013 at 8:54 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Zen Badger - April 10, 2013 at 8:59 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 10, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Cato - April 16, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 10, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 16, 2013 at 4:17 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 16, 2013 at 5:48 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Mister Agenda - April 16, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 3:17 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Cato - April 17, 2013 at 3:35 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 5:00 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by pocaracas - April 17, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Ryantology - April 17, 2013 at 3:27 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by pocaracas - April 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Cato - April 17, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by LostLocke - April 19, 2013 at 11:02 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by justin - April 25, 2013 at 6:20 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 27, 2013 at 3:35 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 27, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Dragonetti - April 27, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 29, 2013 at 2:27 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Dragonetti - April 29, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 17, 2013 at 7:11 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 17, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by paulpablo - April 17, 2013 at 8:19 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by LostLocke - April 16, 2013 at 7:19 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by LostLocke - April 17, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by justin - April 17, 2013 at 10:10 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 17, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 20, 2013 at 6:19 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - April 20, 2013 at 6:20 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by downbeatplumb - April 20, 2013 at 7:31 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Muslim Scholar - April 20, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Cato - April 20, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 8:45 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Joel - April 20, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam or Atheism - by Dragonetti - April 25, 2013 at 6:31 am

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