RE: If god were real...
April 1, 2013 at 9:22 pm
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2013 at 9:26 pm by Simon Moon.)
(April 1, 2013 at 9:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: God did create Lucifer and He knew what Lucifer would decide to do, that still doesn't mean God desired evil to become a part of creation.
Answer this please, if you have a child and that child becomes a murderer does that make you a murderer? The way I see your reasoning you are, and should have to serve the same punishment your child does.
False analogy.
The Biblical 'God' character is supposed to be omniscient. So he had the ability to stop evil coming into the world. Yet he didn't. Why? So the universe would become a 'soul filtering machine'?
A parent would not know that the child would become a murderer. So,no, the parent is not a murderer.
Quote:See the above answer with the child. Lucifer had free will to choose his future, he was so blinded by self he could not rationalize he wouldn't be able to defeat and over throw his Creator.
Free will can not exist with a god that is omniscient. If god is omniscient, he knows every choice anyone will ever make, before we ever make it, In a universe with an omniscient god, we would have the illusion of free will.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
