RE: If god were real...
April 2, 2013 at 4:32 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2013 at 5:03 pm by Godscreated.)
(April 2, 2013 at 2:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(April 2, 2013 at 3:52 am)Godschild Wrote: This has to be the most unreasoned and unreasonable analogy I've ever heard, I mean really, can you really believe such a weak statement. If a person does not know what decision he will make about anything, then that's free will. It doesn't matter whether God or you knows what decision someone will make, it's free will.
If every decision I will ever make is already known, I had no free will to make another choice.
I may think I had the choice, but I did not.
Why has a murderer never used that as a defense in a court of law, you know, God made me do it because He fore knew what choice I would make. It's not me who is guilty, I had no choice in the matter.
(April 2, 2013 at 4:42 am)Mr Infidel Wrote:(April 2, 2013 at 3:43 am)Godschild Wrote:
Then you have to think to yourself: perhaps god was worthy of being disobeyed. No matter how you look at it, god had foreknowledge of himself bringing evil into the world due to his omniscience. You can run yourself in circles all you want, attempting to remain convinced that your god is good, but in the end the logic has to bite that brain of yours and make you realize how gullible you have been. Hopefully.
You honestly have a very skewed sense of love. If god wanted us to love him of our own free will, he would not threaten us with the punishment of hell for not believing in him and not loving him. The way god expects his creations to love him derives from sociopathy.
You perceive being given a choice by God as threatening, yet I do not see anyone saying the government is threatening because it gives people a choice, not to commit first degree murder, or be executed.
It's not me going around in circles, I see things straight down the line, it is you I perceive is the one getting dizzy.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
