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Do I sin because of Adam?
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RE: Do I sin because of Adam?
(April 4, 2013 at 2:46 am)fr0d0 Wrote: No there cannot be sinless humans. You can avoid sins, but never with permanence.

Sins are not blameworthy if they are inevitable. If there is no way for you to avoid sin, then you can't be blamed for sin.

The conclusion follows from the premises. It doesn't make sense to attack the conclusion and not the argument or premises that lead to it. So which premise do you have an issue with? Or is the argument invalid?

I guess I can re-make the syllogism.

A property of sins is that they are blameworthy.
If we can't avoid a sin, it would not be blameworthy.
If we are bound to do at least one sin, then we cannot be blameworthy for doing that one sin.
Therefore we aren't bound to do at least one sin (1, 3).
Therefore it's possible to be sinless.
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Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 2, 2013 at 9:32 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 2, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 2, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 2, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by CapnAwesome - April 2, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Minimalist - April 3, 2013 at 7:31 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 3, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Tonus - April 3, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 10:44 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 10:57 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 2, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 2, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by CleanShavenJesus - April 2, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 3, 2013 at 12:34 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Silver - April 3, 2013 at 12:39 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 3, 2013 at 1:05 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by FallentoReason - April 3, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 3, 2013 at 3:59 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 11:29 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 2, 2013 at 11:41 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 2, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 3, 2013 at 12:21 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 3, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 3, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 3, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2013 at 7:07 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 3, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 7:02 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 4, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by junkyardboy - April 4, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 4, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by junkyardboy - April 5, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 5, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by junkyardboy - April 5, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Tonus - April 5, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by junkyardboy - April 5, 2013 at 3:24 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 5, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Mr_Dew7 - April 6, 2013 at 3:38 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 7, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 8, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 8, 2013 at 11:25 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Esquilax - April 9, 2013 at 4:38 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 9, 2013 at 11:02 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 9, 2013 at 11:19 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Mr_Dew7 - April 6, 2013 at 3:32 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 3, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Drich - April 3, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 3, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Mr_Dew7 - April 5, 2013 at 5:44 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Silver - April 5, 2013 at 5:47 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Mr_Dew7 - April 5, 2013 at 6:19 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by KichigaiNeko - April 5, 2013 at 6:00 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by CapnAwesome - April 3, 2013 at 9:56 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 3, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by CleanShavenJesus - April 3, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 3, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by CapnAwesome - April 3, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 4, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by CapnAwesome - April 3, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Ryantology - April 4, 2013 at 9:28 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 6:52 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 3, 2013 at 7:04 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 3, 2013 at 7:07 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 3, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by junkyardboy - April 3, 2013 at 8:58 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by junkyardboy - April 4, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 8:24 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MysticKnight - April 4, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by junkyardboy - April 4, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Undeceived - April 4, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Godschild - April 5, 2013 at 4:49 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Silver - April 6, 2013 at 3:34 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Mr_Dew7 - April 6, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by KichigaiNeko - April 6, 2013 at 10:38 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Mr_Dew7 - April 7, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 7, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Mr_Dew7 - April 8, 2013 at 2:27 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by KichigaiNeko - April 8, 2013 at 5:21 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 8, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Esquilax - April 8, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 8, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 8, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Darkstar - April 8, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by Baalzebutt - April 8, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by ThomM - April 9, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 10, 2013 at 7:44 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MORETORQUE - April 10, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 10, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by MORETORQUE - April 11, 2013 at 7:40 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 14, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 14, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2013 at 11:38 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 14, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Do I sin because of Adam? - by catfish - April 14, 2013 at 11:56 am

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