(April 4, 2013 at 12:24 am)radorth Wrote: The claim they are liars is obviously implicit. If they are not liars, then you have more than sufficient proof.
No, it is not implicit. They could believe they are telling the truth but still be wrong. If you think determining they are not liars(how you would do that, I don't know) is sufficient proof, you need to look up the words "sufficient" and "proof" before throwing them around again.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
