Is belief really a choice?

[Mystic]

Yes, you already stated that, but it's just re-assertion - it doesn't demonstrate anything.

Original point of contention:

And would add, the fact we do condemn them, shows we believe we do choose what we believe and that there are things that we ought to believe(ie. there are thought crimes).

So we believe two things when we condemn people:

1) We chose what to believe.
2) That there are things we ought to believe.

Without those 2, we can't condemn 9/11 Hijackers.

Of course, I said, this doesn't demonstrate we are right in our assumptions.

I think I've defended the original point of contention well and we are moving away from that now.