RE: Is belief really a choice?
April 4, 2013 at 11:48 am
(This post was last modified: April 4, 2013 at 11:51 am by Mystic.)
(April 4, 2013 at 11:41 am)ChadWooters Wrote:(April 4, 2013 at 11:23 am)MysticKnight Wrote: 1) I believe humans in general believe in free-will. 2) Therefore humans in general know we have free-will. 3) Therefore free-will is true.I don't think a formal proof is required. Freewill is axiomatic. If you do not have freewill, then logical thinking and judgement are irrelevant, even with respect to one's judgment of free-will versus determinism.
They are irrelevant as far as worthwhile purpose goes, but they would not become irrelevant in determining the truth.
(April 4, 2013 at 11:47 am)Rhythm Wrote: Ah, but if someone -could- do that, it would make for a hell of a case that belief was a choice - wouldn't it? I mean, we could go back and forth (like we have for centuries) about free will and beliefs - or, we could just cut to the money shot and find someone who is capable of demonstrating that they've made that choice..eh? Personally, after having been on these forums just a little while, and hearing this chant so often - I'm beyond the point of bickering with most. Pics or it didn't happen, essentially.
From a designed world perspective, what's the point of making decisions in a vacuum with no factors influencing you? Then you can't praise an action or condemn action either.
So to be praiseworthy or condemnable, there has to be various factors influencing you, and you can't simply decide in a vacuum.
