Quote:Those are your assertions not assertions from God. Let me tell you what I've got.. I've got an entire family history of horrible sin. My family history is full of drugs, violence, laziness, and many more things that I cannot put on this forum for self embarrassment and pain. I've got parents who loved whiskey more than me. I actually was on my own at fifteen, stealing just to eat. No bullshit here. And I've got a God and Savior who freed me from suicidal thoughts, irrational anger, and addictions to things I won't say. He freed me from the abuse of my past and everything that was holding me down. I am no longer defined by what once was, and I am a new creation. When you run into issues like these, the ones that make you.think life isn't such a good idea, where do you turn? I firmly believe every word of the Bible and even if I were the only one left in the world, going to my death for my beliefs, then they would still never change. You can argue all the science you want, but when it comes down to it, as long as I believe in God, then no human mind can compare to His. How are we to comprehend his will and plans? I AK not skilled enough to understand these, but each day I learn a little more. And each day my faith becomes more unbreakable.
Are you sure that it wasn't just you who got you through that? I have family history too. Suicide, yes. Drugs/alcohol, yes. If you read some of my posts you'll see just how dark life has gotten for me. I too thought I was living his plans, living my life for him. I thought he got me through things.
But looking back, I got me through those things, while wondering where he was.
As for suicide: I used to be against it because I believed it was a road directly to hell (and that my family members are in hell). Now as a non-believer, I just realize that it's incredibly selfish to kill oneself, and a waste of the only life you have. I don't need a consequence other than the natural default consequences (In real life) to keep me from committing suicide. Every day, it's on my mind because I have immediate family members (2) who are religious (Christian) and are suicidal. They would rather die and go to heaven, than live here on this earth. One's passive in his attempts, the other has tried jumping out of a moving vehicle. Every day I expect the worst call of my life. But I'm not suicidal.
I've been addicted to drugs before, but I don't deal with those addictions anymore. At one point I was on the equivalent of 60 percocets a day (medically necessary up until the day I quit). I don't need god to strengthen me every day, I do it on my own. You do too. You know what got me off of those drugs? A 3 day hospital stay and lots and lots of endured pain and my own resolution in knowing that there is no quality to life on those drugs. I was on them unwillingly, so I saw what they did to my life as an intrusion. There's many paths to realization though. I bet you can identify yours, and I bet your resolution didn't come "because God doesn't want me to do drugs".
I am no longer defined by what I once was, either. Nor what was done to me. Granted, one can never fully forget but I've made an active choice as you seem to have also--to move past it as best I can. Everything is still possible without god. Every day I grow, too. But I build myself up, I don't place that responsibility on anyone or anything other than myself.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.