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California Proposition 8
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RE: California Proposition 8
(November 21, 2008 at 2:57 pm)Daystar Wrote:
(November 21, 2008 at 12:44 am)infidel666 Wrote:
Quote:I tend to think that the militant Atheists have a hidden agenda that they themselves are not fully aware of.
unwitting minions of satan=lucifer=daystar

Satan doesn't equal lucifer,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer says
Quote:Lucifer is a name frequently given to Satan in Christian belief. This usage stems from a particular interpretation, as a reference to a fallen angel, of a passage in the Bible (Isaiah 14:3-20) that speaks of someone who is given the name of "Day Star" or "Morning Star" (in Latin, Lucifer) as fallen from heaven. The same Latin word is used of the morning star in 2 Peter 1:19 and elsewhere with no relation to Satan. However, in many writings later than those of the Bible the Latin word has been used, without being translated as "Morning Star" and the like, as a proper name with which to designate Satan ... The Jewish Encyclopedia states that the Lucifer myth was transferred to Satan already in the pre-Christian century, citing in support of this view the Life of Adam and Eve and the Slavonic Book of Enoch[16], where Satan-Sataniel (sometimes identified with Samael) is described as having been one of the archangels. Because he contrived "to make his throne higher than the clouds over the earth and resemble 'My power' on high", Satan-Sataniel was hurled down, with his hosts of angels, and since then he has been flying in the air continually above the abyss.[12]

However, it was among Christian writers that the identification of "Lucifer" with Satan had its greatest fortune. Tertullian ("Contra Marrionem," v. 11, 17), Origen ("Ezekiel Opera," iii. 356), and others, identify Lucifer with Satan, who also is represented as being "cast down from heaven" (Revelation 12:7-10; cf. Luke 10:18).[12]

The Tyndale Bible Dictionary states that there are many who believe the expression "Lucifer" and the surrounding context in Isaiah 14 refer to Satan: they believe the similarities among Isaiah 14:12, Luke 10:18, and Revelation 12:7-10 warrant this conclusion. But it points out that the context of the Isaiah passage is about the accomplished defeat of the king of Babylon, while the New Testament passages speak of Satan.[11]

Bring it.

Bring the light.

O ye light bringer.

As Prometheus laid the flame of heaven upon the hand of man,

So bring ye the epiphanic blaze of God's e'er perfect plan.
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California Proposition 8 - by Meatball - November 14, 2008 at 11:55 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - November 15, 2008 at 6:39 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 15, 2008 at 11:39 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Eilonnwy - November 17, 2008 at 2:05 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 17, 2008 at 4:56 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 15, 2008 at 11:04 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - December 15, 2008 at 11:38 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 17, 2008 at 8:19 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2008 at 9:13 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 17, 2008 at 11:02 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 17, 2008 at 11:27 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 17, 2008 at 11:37 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 18, 2008 at 1:13 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - November 19, 2008 at 11:07 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 18, 2008 at 1:42 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 18, 2008 at 11:00 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 18, 2008 at 11:30 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - November 18, 2008 at 11:46 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 19, 2008 at 10:44 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 1:50 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - November 19, 2008 at 2:40 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 19, 2008 at 6:49 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 10:58 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by allan175 - November 20, 2008 at 5:03 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 20, 2008 at 10:19 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 20, 2008 at 2:16 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Tiberius - November 18, 2008 at 1:24 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 18, 2008 at 1:55 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by allan175 - November 19, 2008 at 5:18 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 19, 2008 at 1:12 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - November 19, 2008 at 3:09 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 19, 2008 at 10:05 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by allan175 - November 19, 2008 at 11:22 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - November 20, 2008 at 3:03 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 20, 2008 at 4:17 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - November 20, 2008 at 4:53 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Tiberius - November 20, 2008 at 7:47 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 20, 2008 at 7:53 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 20, 2008 at 10:31 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 20, 2008 at 11:19 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 21, 2008 at 12:44 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Daystar - November 21, 2008 at 2:57 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by infidel666 - November 21, 2008 at 11:16 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 21, 2008 at 1:12 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 22, 2008 at 12:44 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - November 22, 2008 at 5:29 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - November 22, 2008 at 5:43 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - November 22, 2008 at 6:03 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by lukec - December 3, 2008 at 5:09 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 3, 2008 at 5:27 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - December 15, 2008 at 10:06 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - December 16, 2008 at 1:58 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - December 16, 2008 at 5:27 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 16, 2008 at 5:44 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - December 16, 2008 at 5:59 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 16, 2008 at 6:28 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 17, 2008 at 11:38 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 11:52 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - December 17, 2008 at 1:07 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 1:09 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by chatpilot - December 17, 2008 at 1:14 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by CoxRox - December 17, 2008 at 1:14 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 17, 2008 at 2:02 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 2:08 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 17, 2008 at 2:16 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 17, 2008 at 8:38 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Jason Jarred - December 17, 2008 at 7:25 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 18, 2008 at 12:01 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2008 at 12:09 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 18, 2008 at 11:16 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2008 at 12:33 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 18, 2008 at 10:54 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2008 at 11:00 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Dotard - December 19, 2008 at 7:41 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Edwardo Piet - December 20, 2008 at 1:22 am
RE: California Proposition 8 - by Meatball - December 20, 2008 at 5:49 pm
RE: California Proposition 8 - by leo-rcc - December 23, 2008 at 11:39 am

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