RE: Show me your proof
April 7, 2013 at 8:13 am
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2013 at 8:19 am by Mr_Dew7.)
(April 7, 2013 at 8:05 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: I mean:
Why should I believe in something that cannot be proven?
Well I believe it can be proven. There is evidence that one can find if that one is willing to seek and research. But I realize also that evidence against God can be found. In any case, believe what you will, but I have seen the proof, and so it has been proven to me. I believe one of my first deciding factors in seeking God, was that I wanted to find out if I would cease to exist or not, and I have come to the conclusion that I will not, and neither will anyone else. That is where my proof has led me. And I can attest to the miracles, signs and wonders that God uses to prove His existence, but then you wouldn't believe me without seeing it for yourself, am I right? That is why I say that one must seek the Truth for oneself. Oh, and thanks for clarifying!
(April 7, 2013 at 8:06 am)futilethewinds Wrote: The most problematic feature of God is supposed omnipotence. It's inherently paradoxical. If God is omnipotent, can he create a stone he cannot lift?As I posted earlier in this thread, a paradox by nature and definition is something that is at first contradictory of itself, but is still true. And yes, wouldn't you expect an omnipotent, which is defined as having ultimate power, God to be able to use His ultimate power for whatever He desires. The paradox of whether or not God can create a stone that He cannot lift is simple if you realize that with ultimate power, one can do the impossible. So yes, He can create such a stone that is too heavy for Him to lift, and then if He desires, He can lift said stone. Impossible becomes possible with ultimate power!! God is willing to prevent evil, and does on a daily basis. Why would He do so for those who despise and disbelieve in Him? He is able, as is expected from an omnipotent being. Evil comes to those who do not take the opportunity God has given them to be free of it. There will be a time and place in which evil will be no more, but just because we are impatient and limited in our ways doesn't mean that there is no God.
To add further difficulty to the matter is the problem of evil.
As Epicurus said,
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
[/i][/size]God demonstrates His own love for us in this: that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8