Show me your proof

[Mr_Dew7]

I am just a Christian. No denomination at all. I simply believe in and try hard to live by what Gods Word says.

Which word would that be?

The one where he commands that a rape victim marries her attacker?

Or that some-one who works on a Sunday be stoned to death?

What about the one where god kills all of the Egyptian children because Pharaoh won't release the jews even though god has caused Pharaoh not to(by hardening his heart)?

Or that bats are actually birds and not mammals as those evil scientists would have you believe?

Hmm.. There is this little thing.. What was that called again? Oh yes!! The New Covenant, written of in the New Testament. Surely you have heard of it? I admit the OT is harsh, and I'm glad that I don't live in those times. I don't pretend to understand the mind or will of God, but I am thankful that things changed. God is the Creator of life, so it is his to give and take away. Surely I can see that it was a harsh punishment, and yes, God did harden pharaoh's heart. He made and example out of him and egypt after he put to death every infant isrealite boy. The Isrealites were chosen by God as His favored people because Abraham was just enough in those horrific times to be righteous and live as Godly of a life as he could. So don't play sympathy on pharaoh when pharaoh struck the first murderous blow by killing all of the jew's infants. And what difference does it make if bats are birds or mammals? I don't care. And I certainly never referred to scientists as evil, now did I?

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Well I believe it can be proven.

Oh, well, if you believe it, it must be true.

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God is willing to prevent evil, and does on a daily basis. Why would He do so for those who despise and disbelieve in Him? He is able, as is expected from an omnipotent being. Evil comes to those who do not take the opportunity God has given them to be free of it. There will be a time and place in which evil will be no more, but just because we are impatient and limited in our ways doesn't mean that there is no God.

Then your God is as a petty child, and not worthy of worship.

Furthermore, this is demonstrably false. Evil in the world still exists and effects believers as much as anyone. See: pedophiles in the Catholic church raping alter boys.

I dare to say that they are not true believers. And how would you know that it touches believers as much as it does not? Because I am a believer, and I will venture to say that it does not come near me nearly as much as to othes. If you don't believe it, then continue on not believing it. You will not change my beliefs. All you see is the members of the group that do wrong, not the ones that do right, and live right.

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Mr_Drew, it doesn't make sense to agree on the first premise, also agree that eternal praiseworthiness is not earned, and then reject the conclusion.

You agreed earning praiseworthiness is more worthy than not.
You agreed eternal praiseworthiness is not earned.

The conclusion necessarily follows from that.

So which of these two premises do you disagree with? Because, from your post, it seemed you agreed with both, but just disliked the conclusion and opposed that. I dislike the conclusion as well, but I don't oppose it, because it seems true to me.

I agree that no one is worthy eternal praiseworthiness except God. If He deems it necessary to bestow upon someone the gift of eternal praisworthiness, then so be it. It is not up to me to decide. I feel that no one on earth is worthy of it. But as I said, should it be given, it is worth far more than anything that can be earned on earth. So no, temporal praiseworthiness is not more praiseworthy than eternal praiseworthiness.