Godschild Wrote:You did not share all this with me, I do feel for you and can not imagine what you've endured. I'm not judging you here, please know this. I'm making an observation, ok? 1 and 2 are things many people have done without finding God, I've seen it before, being a Christian is far more. 3 and 4 are about your Mom and Dad not yourself. Doing things for others does not necessarily make one a Christian, my brother does for others and he is not a Christian, so I've experienced this within my own family. It's a good thing that your parents are so caring, but like I said it's not you.
5 This is you and the one thing you keep saying is I, I did this, I did that. I commend you on what you did do, but by your own words God is not mentioned. My wife has worked with the dying and mentally and physically challenged for years, she includes God in this work, she says this is what God wants me to do, she allows Him to work through her. You also say that you rejected God then became ill and returned to God, again I see this as using God for yourself. Then when you nearly died and prayed for several years and did not hear from God you gave up on Him. You have been wishy washy with God and you expect Him to jump when you say, it doesn't work that way. You never said, not once, that you had turned you life over to Christ as your savior, you never said you let Christ work in and through your life, you did not say you walked in a relationship with Him. These are important things one must do if you expect to hear from God, yet He has poured out His grace on you, you are still alive. You seem to rely on and listen to everyone except God, doing for others is great, allowing God to work through you for others is the greatest. In this He is glorified and you are blessed in many different ways, will he completely restore your health, I do not know, He hasn't for me but that's ok, He has a reason and I accept this. What I do know, I have a viable relationship with God and it brings peace and blessings to me all the time. Please do not get angry as I said it's not a judgement, I'm just pointing out thing you said and the things I have experienced in my Christian walk. One thing I should have said in an earlier post was, allowing God to work through you for others is what Christianity is about, being a Christian means for the most part giving up the I in ones life.
Hey Godschild? Fuck you.
Despite your exhortations, I have indeed gotten angry at this torrent of bullshit you saw fit to relabel as wisdom. Luckie's my fiance, perhaps you didn't know that, and as an individual who actually values her continued existence, I don't appreciate you trivialising her suffering to defend your ineffective religion.
Seriously, why did you think this would be okay? You sit there and smugly wave away the suffering of another human being, before condescendingly telling her that the she just wasn't christianing hard enough. Well, you know, fuck you, that's a complete and utter crock. My girl refused life saving medical treatment for six months, giving herself over completely to god's mercy, what the fuck else do you want? How much more christian can you get than being willing to risk your own safety, gambling it on the supposed benevolence of your pet deity. What's your problem, that she used the personal pronoun in a story about herself? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Do you not understand that Luckie's an atheist? And that she was when she typed the story up there? She doesn't believe in your god anymore. If she observed that she'd had a relationship with christ, or had given everything to god, she would be LYING, because from her perspective such a god does not exist. Are you seriously chiding an atheist for not formatting a story about when they were a christian in christian terms? Actually, it's worse: you're chiding her for not telling her story- about something she doesn't believe anymore- in the words that YOU want her to. Your argument there is top to bottom malformed and idiotic, not to mention completely nasty and insensitive.
Maybe think things through next time, huh? I understand you're desperate to rush to the defense of your book of made up fairytales, but a little thought would help. Oh, and again, fuck you. Not just for being a colossal douche while trying to disguise it as non-judgement, but for upsetting my fiancee to the extent that she came to me with your post outside of the forum. You done fucked up, son.
(April 8, 2013 at 7:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: WHAT!?!
No, you can choose best. C seems to have chosen self torture. This is the opposite of Christianity, but apparently not in some remote back waters.
Would you care to expand on this point? In what way did my fiancee opt for self torture?
Quote:The point of Christianity is to have a better life here and now. Not for fear of something remote.
Ah, which is why christian doctrine takes such pains to menace us all with the concept of hell, of course. And to place heaven up on this insurmountable pedestal. Yes. /sarcasm.
Quote:Yes you can better yourself. You would be doing a disservice to god if you could but didn't. Because god wants the best for you. Hence the parable of the coins... Using your gifts rather than sitting back and doing nothing.
To deny practical help in the form of medicine or medical assistance on the grounds of superstition of any form is anti god too. Those things are god given.
I do agree with you here. Luckie's my girl and I love her with all my heart, but she was fucking dumb when she made the choice to refuse treatment, and if I'd known her back then I would have said so to her face.
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